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revrandy 08-10-2007 09:57 AM
I think concerning the AS TV is just "one" of the issues...

not the only one..

NLYP 08-10-2007 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 211953)
Dan,

I would suggest you take this off the forum and handle privately with Matt.
Renda...Matt is NOT the one lying here...he is simpy going by what he was told.....
I am in no way implying Matt into this!
But he brought this public.....I asked a question...thats all.

NLYP 08-10-2007 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 211955)
I think concerning the AS TV is just "one" of the issues...

not the only one..
Thanks Randy...that is true.
Worldy sports and amusements kills 99% of the honesty of the brethren!

revrandy 08-10-2007 10:05 AM
I know some folks that hop about TV but wear Shorts (Modest of Course, but still not in compliance with the AS), Dance, and watch Movies all the time.. UPC Pastors... and scream about TV... and then accuse others of lying on signing the AS...

It would seem that there is more lying than not concerning the AS...

NLYP 08-10-2007 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 211963)
I know some folks that hop about TV but wear Shorts (Modest of Course, but still not in compliance with the AS), Dance, and watch Movies all the time.. UPC Pastors... and scream about TV... and then accuse others of lying on signing the AS...

It would seem that there is more lying than not concerning the AS...
As do I and THAT is what makes me sick!
OH for CONSISTENCY!
Some here may not like me but I cab assure you, I dont live two different lifestyles based on who I am with or what I am doing.
I am me...what you see is what you get!

BoredOutOfMyMind 08-10-2007 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 211949)
those are simply jokes...don't you think they are silly and harmless...I remember Coonskinner posting a picture of a "toro" on me and I was fine with it, and so was everyone else since he did not get called out on it.
Good observation!

I would like to think any personal attack would be wrong.

Even Toro.

J-Roc 08-10-2007 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 211967)
As do I and THAT is what makes me sick!
OH for CONSISTENCY!
Some here may not like me but I cab assure you, I dont live two different lifestyles based on who I am with or what I am doing.
I am me...what you see is what you get!

Watch out when you cry out for consistency....you may be accused of firestarting or sowing discord. :sshhh

J-Roc 08-10-2007 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 211968)
Good observation!

I would like to think any personal attack would be wrong.

Even Toro.

Well, just for the record, I was not personally offended by Coon... if I was, you would see me doing the following: :bigbaby :tissue


But, I would like to think that there is consistency in calling people out, at least.

BoredOutOfMyMind 08-10-2007 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 211976)
Well, just for the record, I was not personally offended by Coon... if I was, you would see me doing the following: :bigbaby :tissue


But, I would like to think that there is consistency in calling people out, at least.
This was a personal observation that IAM responded to NYLP that he found this problematic.

I have taken note of your observation. (both of them)

:thumbsup

Steve Epley 08-10-2007 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 211953)
Dan,

I would suggest you take this off the forum and handle privately with Matt.
Not Dan's style.:telephone:telephone

chaotic_resolve 08-10-2007 01:50 PM
Here's a peso's worth of observation . . .

I had no idea what was going on until Matt posted what he did about PMs. Of course, I still don't know what's going on, but through Matt's post I know it's more than just the general question I thought it was.

Carry on, but NLYP only asked a question . . . no other information was given.

IAintMovin 08-10-2007 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 211933)
J-Roc, your presentation of a bad joke aimed in a personal way may well be considered an insult by IAM.

Poor taste indeed to carry it from thread to thread.

:nah
No harm here BOOM....but thanks..... I expected it..............

BoredOutOfMyMind 08-10-2007 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IAintMovin (Post 212203)
No harm here BOOM....but thanks..... I expected it..............
I appreciate the PM and replies from J-Roc regarding Personal Attacks.

:nah

NLYP 08-10-2007 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 212158)
Here's a peso's worth of observation . . .

I had no idea what was going on until Matt posted what he did about PMs. Of course, I still don't know what's going on, but through Matt's post I know it's more than just the general question I thought it was.

Carry on, but NLYP only asked a question . . . no other information was given.
And that is what I am asking to be Publically cleared up.
I did not give details nor information, and with St. Matts info...not only is in wrong but paints me dishonest and that is what I want cleared up.

Lost 08-10-2007 04:38 PM
Of course. NLYP asking if a lie can ever be justified.

Have you said something recently that made you feel guilty? Or
are you just preparing your stance for future communications?

NLYP 08-10-2007 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost (Post 212332)
Of course. NLYP asking if a lie can ever be justified.

Have you said something recently that made you feel guilty? Or
are you just preparing your stance for future communications?
You are not involved...but those that are ..are handling it.
As to your second set of questions?? Neither.

The Mrs 08-10-2007 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 211951)
There is another lie!!!! Except this time told to you and misleading, obviously you you were NOT given ALL the pm's!
I just sent them to you!
I never intended for details to go public.....!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 212316)
And that is what I am asking to be Publically cleared up.
I did not give details nor information, and with St. Matts info...not only is in wrong but paints me dishonest and that is what I want cleared up.
You start a thread with the only intention to impugn someone else's (albeit unnamed) character and integrity, and you have the nerve to want to have yourself exonerated?!? :uhoh

THAT'S RICH!!! :killinme

:groan


:drama

RevDWW 08-10-2007 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 211780)
Not keep your WORD because someone else broke their's..........
Since when does someone else not having integrity mean we should not uphold ours?
Bump.......

injoy 08-10-2007 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212345)
You start a thread with the only intention to impugn someone else's (albeit unnamed) character and integrity, and you have the nerve to want to have yourself exonerated?!? :uhoh

THAT'S RICH!!! :killinme

:groan


:drama
Leadership is all about integrity.

Is this NLYP fellow a leader around here?

Barb 08-10-2007 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by injoy (Post 212348)
Leadership is all about integrity.

Is this NLYP fellow a leader around here?
Thou speakest as one who knoweth the answer...:sshhh

The Mrs 08-10-2007 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by injoy (Post 212348)
Leadership is all about integrity.

Is this NLYP fellow a leader around here?
A leader???

Well...yes...of sorts.

Does trouble count??? :killinme









I know, I know! Bad Mrs! BAD!!! :angelsad

NLYP 08-10-2007 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212345)
You start a thread with the only intention to impugn someone else's (albeit unnamed) character and integrity, and you have the nerve to want to have yourself exonerated?!? :uhoh

THAT'S RICH!!! :killinme

:groan


:drama
No Mrs...it was a general question because of a behind the scenes discussion.
I never intended on it going detailed or public.....Admin did that...not I.

NLYP 08-10-2007 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212351)
A leader???

Well...yes...of sorts.

Does trouble count??? :killinme









I know, I know! Bad Mrs! BAD!!! :angelsad
Thats sad....

Barb 08-10-2007 06:01 PM
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

- William Shakespeare

Malvaro 08-10-2007 06:07 PM
thou, oh The Mrs.... RULETH over NLYP in the arena of wit and cunning.... :D

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 212360)
Thats sad....
Aaawww...come on Dan...don't be like that...you know I can't resist! :evilglee

Just had to elbow you in the ribs a bit. :sly

Malvaro 08-10-2007 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLYP (Post 212360)
Thats sad....
that The Mrs said it.... or that it's true???

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malvaro (Post 212371)
thou, oh The Mrs.... RULETH over NLYP in the arena of wit and cunning.... :D
Speaking of trouble....


I believe YOURS begins with a capital 'T'!!! :smack

Malvaro 08-10-2007 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212375)
Speaking of trouble....


I believe YOURS begins with a capital 'T'!!! :smack
actually, i believe that its spelled in caps.... as in "causing TROUBLE".... :D

IAintMovin 08-10-2007 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212351)
A leader???

Well...yes...of sorts.

Does trouble count??? :killinme









I know, I know! Bad Mrs! BAD!!! :angelsad
I know the wit and cunning of IAM was too much for ya TheMissMrs......but if you were to declare war on ........ah hum...... an ... ah hum....certian poster.......I think you could win that one.....and I would help if ya needed any.........


:hypercoffee:hypercoffee

revrandy 08-10-2007 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IAintMovin (Post 212386)
I know the wit and cunning of IAM was too much for ya TheMissMrs......but if you were to declare war on ........ah hum...... an ... ah hum....certian poster.......I think you could win that one.....and I would help if ya needed any.........


:hypercoffee:hypercoffee
Do NOT looketh this way... Ifeth I ameth being thought ofeth...(which being a peaceful man) that I can noteth see-eth...

But if thou needest helpeth...thou knoweth only buteth to asketh...

forewith-eth...posthasty... and wherewithalleth... :D

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IAintMovin (Post 212386)
I know the wit and cunning of IAM was too much for ya TheMissMrs......but if you were to declare war on ........ah hum...... an ... ah hum....certian poster.......I think you could win that one.....and I would help if ya needed any.........


:hypercoffee:hypercoffee
Me?!? :whome

Need help??? Surely you jest!





Why, I could win this one with one arm tied behind my back!




Wait! I'll offer BOTH arms tied behind my back!





No, WAIT! I'll even hop on one leg!!!






I'd just have to kick him to the ground while hopping on one leg, with no arms out to balance me. (Yes, I've seen the Holy Grail before!) :heeheehee










:killinme :killinme :killinme

revrandy 08-10-2007 06:30 PM
btw..if a person struggles with truth...than he struggles with character...

because Character is the engine that drives truth...

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 212398)
btw..if a person struggles with truth...than he struggles with character...

because Character is the engine that drives truth...

Ooooooooooo!!! You're GOOOOOOOD!!! :thumbsup

revrandy 08-10-2007 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212396)
Me?!? :whome

Need help??? Surely you jest!

Why, I could win this one with one arm tied behind my back!

Wait! I'll offer BOTH arms tied behind my back!

No, WAIT! I'll even hop on one leg!!!

I'd just have to kick him to the ground while hopping on one leg, with no arms out to balance me. (Yes, I've seen the Holy Grail before!) :heeheehee


:killinme :killinme :killinme
And you could always take shelter behind that Castle of Laundry!! :killinme

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 212400)
And you could always take shelter behind that Castle of Laundry!! :killinme

Only on Saturdays and Sundays when it's all built up!!! :toofunny








I spit in your general di-rec-tion! :razz

revrandy 08-10-2007 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212403)
Only on Saturdays and Sundays when it's all built up!!! :toofunny



I spit in your general di-rec-tion! :razz
Hopefully it's clean....:couch
:D

The Mrs 08-10-2007 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 212404)
Hopefully it's clean....:couch
:D
The spit? or the laundry??? :icecream

Ron 08-10-2007 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mrs (Post 212396)
Me?!? :whome

Need help??? Surely you jest!





Why, I could win this one with one arm tied behind my back!




Wait! I'll offer BOTH arms tied behind my back!





No, WAIT! I'll even hop on one leg!!!






I'd just have to kick him to the ground while hopping on one leg, with no arms out to balance me. (Yes, I've seen the Holy Grail before!) :heeheehee










:killinme :killinme :killinme
I grew up on British Humour!:hypercoffee

One of which is Monty Python!:hypercoffee

Wait until they lob a Cow over the Castle wall!:hypercoffee


(Leaves hopping off into the distance with his trusty assistance coming behind him clacking two halves of a coconuts together!):hypercoffee

IAintMovin 08-10-2007 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 212400)
And you could always take shelter behind that Castle of Laundry!! :killinme
I just wonder if she ever got all the socks matched up from that 23 loads.............no wait.................socks???????.... sorry MissMrs.....didnt mean to confuse ya............ :13loads


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