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Not real sure what the question is since it was defined in our rules.

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:

Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

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(eta: woops! Renda beat me to it!)


I guess that was Bro. Epley's question.... how many people here still agree with that statement.

I think that most do.

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Hang in there Bro. Epley. Somewhere I read: He who endures to the end!!! Should "AFF" be changed to "CFF" Compromising Friends Forum? Just my thought.

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Am I Apostolic? Well I guess first of all I am more comfortable with the term "Pentecostal" just because that's what we always referred to ourselves as growing up. The first time I remember someone using the term "Apostolic" to refer to me I was a senior in high school. I think EA has commented on this in the past.

I was born and raised in the UPC, I baptized my son in the name of Jesus in the river, I believe that sinners must repent. I cannot describe the joy I felt when my son told me he was filled with the HG with the evidence of speaking in other tongues while on a missions trip to Romania. I anticipate baptizing my daughter in the name of Jesus very soon.

All that being said I suppose I am a liberal when it comes to this place, though in most Christian circles I am a conservative.

So I guess I am just a liberal Pentecostal who resists the term Apostolic because to me it applies to those who are "more holy" than the rest of us. I don't need a new label.

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Like someone has already mentioned - this is a public forum - not a church. Even if someone doesn't consider themselves "walking the path of perfection" as others do - there are common roots that we all share.

Can't we just all posts together without everyone getting all weirded out?

It really saddens me that we can't respect each other.

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I have never had a desire to use the name Apostolic Church although there are a long list of Apostolic churches in Brazil...Roman Catholic being the biggest...then a branch off it: Christian Catholic Apostolic church, Renascer (Re-Born)Apostolic church, Latin Apostolic Catholic church a Catholic church that has discovered that we have a holy grandmother called Holy Rose. lol...and on and on...now there are probably 15 or more that baptize in Jesus name that use the word Apostolic from far left to far right and a dozens of trinity Apostolic churches...however the common person of Brazil the word Apostolic means Catholic to their minds because this is a Catholic country and a DEVOTE Catholic will tell you, I AM FROM THE APOSTOLIC ROMAN CATHOLIC Church...

Now it is just something I do not like I think my son would plaster Apostolic over everything! He loves the word...I like it in what I feel is a Biblical definition but to use it I guess if I wanted to have some big campaign I might use it for a catch word...
I do not see using any word over our doors revels what is inside until we go inside…

On a forum like this one most of us if not all of us understand the statement Apostolic in the sense of preaching and practicing Acts 2:38… but the common man would not understand this term.

I don’t know but I am sure Renda would know but with those I have talked with and corresponded with most believe Acts 2:38 and all know whether they believe it or not that this is a place where Acts 2:38 is foundational bedrock belief.


I once met Jim Yohe and yes he was a believer in Acts 2:38. We had a nice talk in Jonesboro Arkansas I believe it was. (dates and places sometimes fail me!)

Acts 2:38 alone will not save…being a true Christian in every manner is what will save us. Acts is only a part and yes a very important part…however it is not by Acts 2 38 Jesus said ALL MEN WILL KNOW we are his disciples…
In the book He inspired holy men of long ago to write he laid down exactly what it is to be one of his followers.
The other day (not bragging) just to mention an experience I had waited at least 3 hours to see the doctor and when my name was called we walked in (Brother Alvear was with me) and the doctor had just took out my exams to look at when an elderly lady literally burst in and said it was her turn not mine….the doctor kindly showed her the sheet and my name was before hers…she looked at me and I looked at her as the doctor said Mrs. Alvear is before you…I felt compassion for her as I saw she was a little lady that probably did not know how to read or write and bursting in was just her little simple crude way…I looked at my doctor and told him it was fine with me for him to attend her first…he said…Now, Mrs. Alvear you do not have to do this…I said I want to and motioned for her to take my chair and we went and sat back down in the waiting room…for another 30 or so minutes as she had many exams for him to look at…

When it was finally my time she thanked me and told me she lived in a distant city and if he would not have attended her she would have went back home because there was no other bus time if she did not catch the evening bus…
The doctor told me, Mrs. Alvear I knew you were a missionary and the nurse from your church has so many good things to say about you however I just witnessed an act of Christ that does not often happen in doctors’ offices…
Does that make me saved? No…Does Acts experience make me saved? No…but those things and many more will contribute to my salvation…for to be saved first it is only by HIS mercy and grace and then by my obedience to His words.
I know Apostolic people and preachers that are liars and have been baptized in Jesus name…so according to what John wrote in Rev. they are not saved…

I know what I have written is a little off the original suggestion but it would be ok with me if they changed the name of this forum to Christians forum…
As long as we try to play God we are wrong…
Let me make myself clear if I did not believe ACTS 2:38 is Bedrock I would be wasting my time in Brazil however because it is bedrock I remain…for there are millions that love Jesus in this country but need Acts 2:38 so we must press on…

Hebrews 6
1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
I say it is about time we grow up…yesterday was celebrated as the national prayer day for the persecuted church…I doubt if many even knew that let alone prayed for those in communist countries and countries where Christians are persecuted and killed.
I admit we all differ in many things we believe but at the same time I think we can be friends and we do not have to say cutting things and unkind things to each other. We ALL claim to be Christians and to be a Christian means to be like Christ.
Just the other night someone asked me would I use a certain lawyer (no one on our forum) for business. My answer was blunt but not unkind…We may not trust someone and may not even have faith in someone but we do not have to make it our business to destroy them or under mind them.
Time reveals our works…I once knew a missionary that worked long and hard but his method was wrong and after he left his work crumbled…RIGHT stands the time test.
I had great faith for quite a few years in a certain pastor but something happened and my great respect and faith in him as a mature man of God was completely destroyed. Few people even know how hurt I was…I have not made it my business to announce to the world how child like he acted in an opportunity to try to destroy someone…I realized that fame had gone to his head and distorted his view of handling things in a godly manner…but talk about him I have not!
I personally do not come to any forum to hurt I come to promote the cause of Christ. I know I don’t fit in everyone’s little box…I am a soldier of an army that always fighting in dark terrain and among devil worshippers..so I don’t have a lot of time to fit in the PENTECOSTAL Styles and Fashion shows at camp meetings and conferences…lol…I march to a different drum beat than many…I am NOT content with endless shopping sprees…I long for the heat of the battle….I had rather be on the front lines preaching to pagans about the Christ that sets men free than to be at a dainty tea party somewhere…that is just me…yet there is a soft side of me that is not hardened by long years of battle…I still weep for the hurting, stoop to clean a child’s face, stop and by roses for different ones, make little surprise boxes for those that have birthdays, take a bath with bubble bath and buy me a candy bar and a coke even if I am a fat old lady!

Dear ones, we are only human…we all have our concerns, our problems, life does not always seem fair…but why let all those things ruin a day we can love and be loved?

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sorry for getting off the subject...lol...a typical woman my son would say!

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"True Apostolics, and the compromising, slippery-slope abiding liberals, plus the few out-n-out rank sinning heathens that refuse to go away Forum"

Well, it's kinda long....

and as an acronym Tacatcssalptfonorshtrtgaf does present some difficulties....

though it does kinda sound like speaking in tongues...

:hmmm

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:D

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Well I have not read the entire thread and IF this has already been said, then I guess it will be said twice. :)

To me Apostolic is doing what the Apostles did, which was more than just being baptized and speaking in tongues.

They prayed for the sick and they were healed...can you say that happens when YOU pray for the sick? I'm not talking about occassionally getting healed. I mean it was the norm.

I think of the Apostles that left their homes with only their shoes and coat and staff, no money and evangelized trusting God to meet their needs...can YOU say you do that?


The Apostles stirred up the cities to the point that they were arrested and thrown into prison...have YOU stirred up your city?

To ME being apostolic is more than being baptized with the correct formula and speaking in tongues.

As Baron said we really are more Pentecostal. We emphasize the doctrine, of Acts 2:38 and seem to think that sums it up.