Originally Posted by Ron (Post 483710)

And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483711)

Folks, we had issues in Germany until the 1950's. we still have bases both there and in Japan 60 years later.


I want a stable ally in the middle east where we can have bases of operations. just like we do in Europe and the far east.

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 483898)

"I have no Plan B. ... I cannot give you a good alternative because if I had a good alternative, maybe we could consider it now. Every alternative that I know of that is keyed to a date for withdrawal, which that would dictate, is chaos in the region. And genocide."

— In an interview with The New York Times, April 14, 2007

I'm just saying that he was very clear about his stance on a timetable...until he came up with one of his own. A timetable is either naive and foolish or it's not.

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 483904)

You have been gone too long... But still.... :boxing Do I have to smack you upside the head too! :reaction

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483905)

hmm this obsession with how much money people make rings familiar, lol

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483923)

i do mind you asking.

Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483931)

No head smacking allowed...Diz does that to me just fine! Btw: I did say TIC at the end of that thing didn't I? :)

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483925)

Iraqis need to govern themselves. Sadly, I don't see a Democracy in Iraq. I think we'll see something more akin to a coalition government where a specific religious faction keeps control.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483935)

some things are just nunyo, nunyobidness, lol

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483906)

Ferd's post was nothing but an opinion.