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Hoovie 03-27-2007 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd (Post 55321)
This thread is a great example of why there really can't be productive discussion on this forum. It is really pathetic to see the three of you [AB, S Epley, and S Hoover] just mocking and joking about a serious subject.

Brother Epley, I am especially dissappointed in you because you recently "left" the forum because you thought people were mocking the name of Jesus and now you are doing the same thing to a truth and name that another holds dear. Very sad in my opinion...
I am sorry... I think, at least if you are serious. But really, do commune living with robes and fringes translate into a serious subject?

Just a Shepherd 03-27-2007 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 55352)
I am sorry... I think, at least if you are serious. But really, do commune living with robes and fringes translate into a serious subject?
It's just mockery and foolishness. The people I have met who believe the sacred name doctrine are some very sincere people with some very vaild points. Furthermore they are usually very studious people and really have a passion for what they believe. I wish to God all apostolics were as passionate!

Steve Epley 03-27-2007 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd (Post 55321)
This thread is a great example of why there really can't be productive discussion on this forum. It is really pathetic to see the three of you [AB, S Epley, and S Hoover] just mocking and joking about a serious subject.

Brother Epley, I am especially dissappointed in you because you recently "left" the forum because you thought people were mocking the name of Jesus and now you are doing the same thing to a truth and name that another holds dear. Very sad in my opinion...
These folks have found 4 pronuciations of thei Hebrew name that was about five years ago and been baptized 5 times including Jesus Name that they hate. But probably the count is more as they continually to find the Hebrew pronunciation of the Name. I have no problem with someone who speaks Hebrew if they can read Hebrew baptizing in the equivilant of Jesus Name. But these folks denounced Jesus Name and said it meant the pig and have found a new name every couple of years. And yes I am mocking their instability and absurdities they have taught and do teach. To equate that to the same as mocking Jesus Name is untenable.

ThePastorsCoach 03-27-2007 11:22 PM
Amen!
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 55374)
These folks have found 4 pronuciations of thei Hebrew name that was about five years ago and been baptized 5 times including Jesus Name that they hate. But probably the count is more as they continually to find the Hebrew pronunciation of the Name. I have no problem with someone who speaks Hebrew if they can read Hebrew baptizing in the equivilant of Jesus Name. But these folks denounced Jesus Name and said it meant the pig and have found a new name every couple of years. And yes I am mocking their instability and absurdities they have taught and do teach. To equate that to the same as mocking Jesus Name is untenable.
Amen!

Steve Epley 03-27-2007 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd (Post 55370)
It's just mockery and foolishness. The people I have met who believe the sacred name doctrine are some very sincere people with some very vaild points. Furthermore they are usually very studious people and really have a passion for what they believe. I wish to God all apostolics were as passionate!
They are NOT passionate they are 'ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth reprobate.'

ThePastorsCoach 03-27-2007 11:24 PM
Deceived and Reprobate!
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 55383)
They are NOT passionate they are 'ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth reprobate.'
Deceived and Reprobate! AMEN!

Just a Shepherd 03-27-2007 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 55374)
These folks have found 4 pronuciations of thei Hebrew name that was about five years ago and been baptized 5 times including Jesus Name that they hate. But probably the count is more as they continually to find the Hebrew pronunciation of the Name. I have no problem with someone who speaks Hebrew if they can read Hebrew baptizing in the equivilant of Jesus Name. But these folks denounced Jesus Name and said it meant the pig and have found a new name every couple of years. And yes I am mocking their instability and absurdities they have taught and do teach. To equate that to the same as mocking Jesus Name is untenable.
I just find it interesting how you get offended and threaten to quit the forum and then show the same disrespect to others but justify it.

Steve Epley 03-27-2007 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd (Post 55409)
I just find it interesting how you get offended and threaten to quit the forum and then show the same disrespect to others but justify it.
Are YOU equating the Name of Jesus to some makeup name that has changed 4 times at least since I have known them????? If I had changed Jesus Name 4 times you would have a point. Do YOU know these guys??? I do.

ThePastorsCoach 03-27-2007 11:44 PM
Cultic
 
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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd (Post 55370)
It's just mockery and foolishness. The people I have met who believe the sacred name doctrine are some very sincere people with some very vaild points. Furthermore they are usually very studious people and really have a passion for what they believe. I wish to God all apostolics were as passionate!
"The Sacred Name Doctrine"
This is purely CULTIC and ELITIST! It is pure deception!
Brother - you need to go pray and ask God to reveal the Truth to you about who God is! I have seen what this kind of doctrine does to people. Pray for God to reveal Himself to you before you go any deeper into this deception!

Steve Epley 03-27-2007 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 55434)
"The Sacred Name Doctrine"
This is purely CULTIC and ELITIST! It is pure deception!
Brother - you need to go pray and ask God to reveal the Truth to you about who God is! I have seen what this kind of doctrine does to people. Pray for God to reveal Himself to you before you go any deeper into this deception!
I made an indepth study on this doctrine when I was going to debate these guys it is an offshoot of the JW's but in the last 2 decades made some inroads into the church. The orignator(whose name slipped me at this time) was a two-god guy like the JW's he came out of. The literature is written by those who can no more read and speak Hebrew than myself.


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