This is no doubt why Paul said "women are to learn in silence":happydance :woohoo :dancing :amen And we are NOT suprized either. So NO suprizes today there rarely are any suprizes on here.:heeheehee

This issue has been proven over and over but none are as blind as those who will NOT see. Emulate Tammy Faye & Jan and dispise saints have at it.

Steve~ As I have said in the past I really have no issues with you. No I do not agree with you, but your the only one who been honest enough to say, "Yes I believe and teach the dress issues is heaven or hell'! You don't twist or dance around when ask like many here do, and for that I respect you.

Thank you and yes I do believe what preach at home and abroad. Might not agree but never misunderstood.:bubble

Your very welcome Sir~I really do respect your honesty.

No one is suggesting anyone look like Tammy Faye & Jan. Relying on extremes to prove your point proves your point is shaky... at best.

Keep your eye on the ball.

When you STATE that I preach another Gospel you are indeed accusing me of heresy and therfore, according to scripture I would be accursed.

Perhaps going beyond a primary level of reasoning when you post would allow you to see how some statements lead to obvious conclusions?

BTW, it is unwise to judge what I preach when you have no idea what I preach. Which is exactly what you did. Of course I doubt you will see it that way.

There are a couple of conservative minded people that posted who understood the theme of this thread was not to bash standards but to bring to awareness of the dillusion of what we think an apostolic is and what the perception of an apostolic is. There is a huge gap between the two groups.

This should be a time for introspection anyone who wears an apostolic label. Unfortunately self-denial supercedes common sense. The perception the world has of apostolics is not because they are ignorant or in the dark. The world's perception of apostolic comes from years of observed behavior.