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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 354574)

And from another perspective...

I have heard of the LW Trio. Use to hear them on the radio and wondered whatever happeed to them. When I joined these forums, I'd see the name LW every now and again, but until today...

I had never heard these "news scoops". I had never heard the allegations and the charges being put forth. Call me "Out of the Loop", but, I guess thats by design. I try to avoid the NEWS FLASHES and the BOMBSHELLS. Don't care nothin' about the latest gossip...the latest rumor. When a brother or sister falls or makes a mistake, or is involved in a scandal, I just pray for them and hope they can make it back to their place in Christ.

And I guess thats my point. Actually, its Paul's point. He said this: Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted

Call me old fashioned, as well, but I was taught that it is our job, that is, if we are spiritual, to try to restore a brother who has fallen. And, if that brother has restored his relationship with the Lord, it is our job to help keep him that way... by not placing stumbling blocks along the way. Stumbling blocks like bringing up his or her past failings, feeding the rumor mill, or fanning the flames of gossip.

Well, I don't know, but the Christian faith should be about open doors. Not open doors that allow sinful living to enter unchecked. But an open door to those who are willing and ready to leave their sins outside the door. Open doors to a fallen brother who is trying to restore himself. If we aren't helping that brother in his restoration, but are throwing stumblingblocks is his way, doesn't that show just how unspiritual we are?

Are we truly representing Jesus as the Open Door to those who seek Him in repentance...or do we represent another crowd? Mat 23:13

Now no one is saying anything different, we all believe what you have posted on forgiveness and being a help, still you are not talking about a new convert who was struggling, but a man who was part of a college that taught young men and women to be in the ministry.

Let's keep this in it's proper perspective please, Lanny Wolfe had a birthday celebration that was more like a reunion, and that was discussed on NFCF, we all shared some strong views on that issue. Now we have, low and behold a reunion of the Lanny Wolfe trio? OA, don't you think this just a tad out of balance of the post you just presented? Maybe there is a little more in the mix here than we are ready to say?

I hope Lanny Wolfe, and others who had fallen to homosexual sin have recovered, but don't you just think that they might be proven before we start applauding them from the star struck pews?

And please for heaven's sake must we say that restoration of a ex-homosexual is to stick him back in the pulpit or platform?

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 354576)

This in and of it'self is very, very, telling - seeing there are several here who know him personally

Brother Hoover, you're totally correct. How is it that all of those who know this man are not slamming their foot down and saying that they know for a fact that Lanny Wolfe is clean and sober, and free from the homosexual tendency? It is puzzling that the man in question is not making sure he speaks of the Lord’s restitution and deliverance prior to his performance.

Even entertainers in the world would offer their audience to hear that they were clean from drugs, or some kind of comeback story. I just think it odd that a once minister of the faith wouldn’t try to defend himself and proclaim his freedom from such a disgusting sin.

Would you all give Ted Arthur Haggard this much space?

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 354583)

Yes, by all means, Brother, I do believe a "proving time" is necessary and I don't think a brother should be welcomed back as a conquering hero. No, I don't think restoration means putting them back in the pulpit, sweeping things under the rug and pretending it didn't happen. It means just what Paul said, to "restore such an one in the spirit of meekness". We abhor the sins of the flesh represented in this case, and rightfully so. We stand against them,. and we are correct in doing so. Just as Jesus stood against the sin of adultery. But, he forgave the adulteress. And He helped her find her way to repentance. Like I said, until today, I never knew anything about this. And, when I read some of the posts today, I just wondered... are we standing against the sin? Or the sinner? I just pray the brother can find, or has found, a place of repentance and restoration. If he has, maybe he has proiven himself to those that matter. His pastor... His God. I don't know when his fall occurred, so, maybe in the intervening time he has done so. I pray for him, and others, just as I know you do.

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 354598)

Wonderful post and I totally agree.

OneAccord how long have you been in the Apostolic Church? Weren't you in Elder W. H. Dunn's fellowship in Miami at the 53rd street church?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Yes, I attended Bro. Dunns church in Miami. He and Evangelist H.H. Philipps baptized me in Jesus Name in November, 1970. I was just a kid, and have little recollection of the people of the church. I didn't attend there long as we moved to Southern Indiana the next year. I remember that the church was on 119th Street, though. Here's a photo of a bulletin from Bro. Dunns church:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m.../119church.jpg

LW will never admit that he has or had a problem with homosexuality,he will probably go to the grave denying it.I know of one young man he messed up while at JCM,it took my friend years to get over it. At the JCM reunion LW took him aside and apologized and said he wished he would have done a few things differently.When it happened at JCM my friend went to the leadership of JCM and they wouldn't listen to him.At the reunion the leadership apologized to my friend,shed a lot of tears and tried to make things right.

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 354999)

I visited there in the late 70's. What a building and a great church.

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 355092)

I visited there in the late 70's. What a building and a great church.

I was there before the actual church building was built. They were meeting in what later became the fellowship hall or Sunday School rooms. What services were held there!

Its kind of funny now, but, well, at that time I was pretty young. What I can remember is how women shrank during the services. They actually got smaller. They came in with their hair all piled up in those Pentecostal beehives, but, when they left, they were a foot or two shorter. As they "shouted" and worshipped the Lord, their hair would come down like the walls of Jericho, and they seemed to leave the service alot shorter than when they arrived!

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 354999)

I have the same Bible tract, it's neat to see it on line.

Now my question is this, what do you think has changed in the Apostolic Pentecostal movement concerning the subject of this thread?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I think we, as a whole, aren't getting much better at focusing on restoring someone to the faith after they have fallen. We still have the tendency to "throw the baby out with the bath water'. We lump the sinner in with the sin, rather than exposing the sin for what it is and helping the fallen brother find their way to deliverance. We slam the door of mercy shut on those who fall by ostracizing them, referring to them as any thing but a fallen brother or sister in the Lord.

And we...WE... demand evidence of their repentance. We have got to see their tears of repentance. We demand they display their shame and remorse until WE say it is enough. But its never enough. I don't need to see their snot bubbles... if... if they have repented, the fruit of their repentance will follow. I agree they should be "sit down" for a period to prove themselves, but, isn't that betwen the individual and their pastor?

I don't think alot has changed. We still shoot our wounded. We step on the fallen. We openly speak of those things which are done in secret. And, we haven't shed many, if any tears, for those who are caughts in sins web. And...we will be held accountable.