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MrsMcD 03-03-2009 09:31 AM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 715664)
If a man has problems lusting after women who are not his wife, is he sinning whenever he has such lustful thoughts and feelings?
I think from scripture, the answer is plainly yes.

Why would it be different for homosexuals who have such feelings toward people of their own gender... whether they act on those feelings or not?
There is no difference. Sin is sin no matter how we try to cover it up.

RandyWayne 03-03-2009 09:31 AM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 715664)
If a man has problems lusting after women who are not his wife, is he sinning whenever he has such lustful thoughts and feelings?
I think from scripture, the answer is plainly yes.

Why would it be different for homosexuals who have such feelings toward people of their own gender... whether they act on those feelings or not?
The difference is that "lusting after a woman" involves lusting after a single woman, or at least the woman of the moment. Men who are happily married can still be said to "desire women" simply because their wife IS a woman. Same with someone with "gay" feelings. They "desire" those of the same sex -and can without ogling and "lusting" after an individual.

TRFrance 03-03-2009 09:39 AM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 715668)
The difference is that "lusting after a woman" involves lusting after a single woman, or at least the woman of the moment. Men who are happily married can still be said to "desire women" simply because their wife IS a woman. Same with someone with "gay" feelings. They "desire" those of the same sex -and can without ogling and "lusting" after an individual.
So just "desiring" someone of the same sex is not sinful, as long as the person isnt "ogling and lusting" after a particular individual?

Come on, brother.
From a biblical perspective, that view is so off-base that it's not even funny.

(If you have scriptures to support your view on this, feel free to share them with us.)

Timmy 03-03-2009 09:39 AM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 715657)
No, because that is a weakness and putting him around children would be "leading him into temptation". However, is he sinning by merely having those feelings (even as he tries to fight them and change)? Again, I would encourage him.
But God won't allow any temptation that's too much for him to resist, so shouldn't be a problem. Right? 1 Corinthians 10:13, right? You couldn't circumvent God's promise by letting him be near children, could you?

Timmy 03-03-2009 11:18 AM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 715681)
But God won't allow any temptation that's too much for him to resist, so shouldn't be a problem. Right? 1 Corinthians 10:13, right? You couldn't circumvent God's promise by letting him be near children, could you?
Besides, God would protect those little ones, if you ask Him to. Wouldn't He?

DividedThigh 03-03-2009 01:42 PM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
no such thing as gay apostolic, there is gay and there is apostolic, diametrically opposed to one another, dt

KWSS1976 03-03-2009 01:45 PM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
So DT a gay person believes the same way of apostolics and cannot be apostolic even to the point of getting the holyghost?

DividedThigh 03-03-2009 01:46 PM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 715884)
So DT a gay person believes the same way of apostolics and cannot be apostolic even to the point of getting the holyghost?
duh, if a gay person receives the holy ghost he wont be gay anymore, if he lets the spirit straighten out his life, if not he aint an apostolic, dt

KWSS1976 03-03-2009 01:49 PM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
But JE on this tread recived the holyghost?

DividedThigh 03-03-2009 01:51 PM
Re: Gay apostolics?
 
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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 715890)
But JE on this tread recived the holyghost?
then he best be gettin straight, or god will throw him out, he wont need me to clean out his house, dt


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