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Chan 03-21-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47887)
Hmmm....I understand this verse to mean that the righteous will be judged adn therefore will "scarcely be saved" because they may or may not make it.

I don't believe that the Bride of Christ will be judged.

Is there anyone outside the bride of Christ (the Church) that is righteous?

LaVonne 03-21-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 47890)
Is there anyone outside the bride of Christ (the Church) that is righteous?

What about those who went before us...those who we plan to meet in heaven that never had the Holy Ghost...are they righteous? I think so. We've got the Holy Ghost...we are Holy.

Chan 03-21-2007 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47893)
What about those who went before us...those who we plan to meet in heaven that never had the Holy Ghost...are they righteous? I think so. We've got the Holy Ghost...we are Holy.

Is there anyone within the Church Age (Pentecost to the blessed hope or "rapture") that fits that category? Maybe you're referring to the Old Testament saints, who are not part of the Church. Are they the same "righteous" as Peter was referring to or are they the righteous John was referring to in Revelation (the ones who will be ruled on the new Earth?

LaVonne 03-21-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 47934)
Is there anyone within the Church Age (Pentecost to the blessed hope or "rapture") that fits that category? Maybe you're referring to the Old Testament saints, who are not part of the Church. Are they the same "righteous" as Peter was referring to or are they the righteous John was referring to in Revelation (the ones who will be ruled on the new Earth?

Well Chan, I really don't have time to get into all that I believe on this subject. I really wanted to know what others, especially preachers feel about the scripture I asked about, if it applies to the Bride of Christ and how they use it when preaching.

We've always had this scripture hammered down our throats with fear and trembling...I mean if I don't stay on my knees in repentance 24/7, I may not make it. Do all teach it this way? (actually I know they don't, but am curious who does/doesn't)

Michael The Disciple 03-21-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47946)
Well Chan, I really don't have time to get into all that I believe on this subject. I really wanted to know what others, especially preachers feel about the scripture I asked about, if it applies to the Bride of Christ and how they use it when preaching.

We've always had this scripture hammered down our throats with fear and trembling...I mean if I don't stay on my knees in repentance 24/7, I may not make it. Do all teach it this way? (actually I know they don't, but am curious who does/doesn't)

The righteous are in contrast to the sinner and ungodly. All believers have to be righteous as well as holy. Whoever's works are not perfect will be blotted out of the book of life. Rev. 3:1-5

I have never heard anyone teach you have to be repenting 24/7 to make it in. If you were repenting every day that would mean you commit sin every day. Those who commit sin continually will not be in Heaven.

LaVonne 03-21-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 48034)
The righteous are in contrast to the sinner and ungodly. All believers have to be righteous as well as holy. Whoever's works are not perfect will be blotted out of the book of life. Rev. 3:1-5

I have never heard anyone teach you have to be repenting 24/7 to make it in. If you were repenting every day that would mean you commit sin every day. Those who commit sin continually will not be in Heaven.

I agree with the bolded part! I'm glad you feel this way....sadly, not all do.

Scott Hutchinson 03-21-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47779)
Ok, but the question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, is this verse refering to the Bride of Christ?

The Bride of Christ and the church are one in the same who else but the church is considered righteous?

Ron 03-21-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47887)
Hmmm....I understand this verse to mean that the righteous will be judged adn therefore will "scarcely be saved" because they may or may not make it.

I don't believe that the Bride of Christ will be judged.

We the Saints are constantly being judged everyday by conviction, and through reading the reflection of God's word (how are you measuring up?) remember the scrupture in Corrinthians where it says for us to examine ourselves before we take communion?

If we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.

philjones 03-21-2007 06:21 PM

Sis. Carey,

Are you sure you don't believe the Bride will be judged? What is your scriptural basis for that belief? It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. What about that scripture excludes the bride of Christ?

LaVonne 03-21-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 48066)
We the Saints are constantly being judged everyday by conviction, and through reading the reflection of God's word (how are you measuring up?) remember the scrupture in Corrinthians where it says for us to examine ourselves before we take communion?

If we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.

I agree with what you are saying here...thanks Ron!

Btw...how are you feeling today? What did the doctor have to say?


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