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Saved 06-04-2008 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 483245)
Because we have too few real America loving Americans left in America. These are people who come here to reap the benefits but never really pledge their allegiance to our country..now these people are voting. The thing I can't understand, there are "Christians" who stand up for Obama.

If we knowingly vote for a hard core liberal will we be accountable for the death of the millions of infants that will be killed as well as the rejection of Isareal plus many other things that may happen. Just a thought.
People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.

StillStanding 06-04-2008 08:06 AM
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Racism trumps Sexism!

CC1 06-04-2008 08:13 AM
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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)

rgcraig 06-04-2008 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483273)
Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
I'm just NOT voting for the 50% white side of him - - is that better?

bethola 06-04-2008 08:31 AM
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Well, we have had a VP that didn't know how to spell and now a "possible" President that doesn't know how many states he will be serving. Don't they teach GEOGRAPHY and HISTORY anymore in school?

SDG 06-04-2008 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Saved (Post 483260)
People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.
Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure and thick epedermis to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!

SDG 06-04-2008 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483273)
Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)
Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.

CC1 06-04-2008 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483298)
Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!
Voting for a canidate who opposes partial birth abortion vs one who approves of it is IMPORTANT. I don't care if the rest of the world thinks we are "extemist".

I see them as "extremist" promoting gay marriage, abortion, etc.

CC1 06-04-2008 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483300)
Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.
Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?

deltaguitar 06-04-2008 09:07 AM
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Well, . . . Obama getting elected might push the republicans to get their act together. I highly doubt he can get elected though. There is just to much to overcome and the seniors like McCain.


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