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Bowas 12-04-2008 01:16 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
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Originally Posted by HaShaliach (Post 646570)
Unethical?

To receive unsolicited mailings (news papers, political advertisements, store sales, catalogs, outreach mailings/door hangers at houses for folks to attend other churches, inviting friends, family and even strangers to visit your church for special events, etc.) one considers to be trash, then simply trash it. No one is "required" to read such magazines - and yet, who knows, there just might be an article in there you could find interesting, perhaps even valuable. I can't say - I don't get any. LOLOL

Just because there is some good articles in it does not make it ethical.
I guess a good question would be to ask why they would spend money on a magazine and send it unrequested to ministers from an organization they just left just so the ministers from the organizatoin they left may find a good article to read. I think not.
People invest money in the hopes of gaining something from it. Be it more money or more members.

2020Vision 12-04-2008 02:03 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HaShaliach (Post 646570)
Unethical?

To receive unsolicited mailings (news papers, political advertisements, store sales, catalogs, outreach mailings/door hangers at houses for folks to attend other churches, inviting friends, family and even strangers to visit your church for special events, etc.) one considers to be trash, then simply trash it. No one is "required" to read such magazines - and yet, who knows, there just might be an article in there you could find interesting, perhaps even valuable. I can't say - I don't get any. LOLOL

Exactly. Hatred creates blinders. Charisma Today somehow found my address on a distribution list and sent me a FREE copy. How unethical!

HangingOut 12-04-2008 02:04 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
Answer this for me, why would they solicit every minister from the supposed liberal org they just seperated themselves from a mere months before. Are they trying to weed out the left over liberal from Cons to come on down and join. Sorry, it is a numbers and money game in my opinion. My pastor wouldn't meet their standards. He watches "Little House on the Praire."


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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 646264)
But orgs grow by recruiting people, so why shouldn't the WPF send something out to all the apostolic ministers it can contact to let it know about its fellowship?
If someone wants to join them it's not sheep/pastor stealing, that person chose to join that org.

I don't understand this "ethics" thing, but I am also indep, so I don't often come across this sort of stuff (or will in the future, since I plan to stay indep), I guess...

-Bro. Alex


HangingOut 12-04-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
I understand that but timing here is of consideration. I can understand notices and invitations that led up to the voting and continuing to advertize on their web site. To me anyway, mass mailing the constinguency after the vote is another tactic altogether.


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Originally Posted by Melody (Post 646313)
A magazine that is excellent in content, is unethical?
But signing an affirmation statement that one doesn't adhere to isn't unethical, unbelievable.
There are several things mailed to me that I don't "sub" to and I have never been offended, and not once in the "unethical" magazine do they ever "talk bad" about any organization.

Just so you know the "organization" sells, without our consent, our addresses to anyone that asks.............


2020Vision 12-04-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
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Originally Posted by HangingOut (Post 646715)
Answer this for me, why would they solicit every minister from the supposed liberal org they just seperated themselves from a mere months before. Are they trying to weed out the left over liberal from Cons to come on down and join. Sorry, it is a numbers and money game in my opinion. My pastor wouldn't meet their standards. He watches "Little House on the Praire."

get over it and let it go... they have something they want to share. If you decide to join because of the magazine, that's your choice. If not, it's okay. For crying out loud it's an Apostolic magazine. We need more of them!

tstew 12-04-2008 02:11 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
What helps put this in perspective is the fact that every one of them would have a huge problem with this happening in their local assembly. It is not the same as receiving a Circuit City circular in the mail. That is a ludicrous comparison.

HangingOut 12-04-2008 02:17 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
Excellant point!


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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 646730)
What helps put this in perspective is the fact that every one of them would have a huge problem with this happening in their local assembly. It is not the same as receiving a Circuit City circular in the mail. That is a ludicrous comparison.


George 12-04-2008 02:19 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
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Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 646629)
Just because there is some good articles in it does not make it ethical.
I guess a good question would be to ask why they would spend money on a magazine and send it unrequested to ministers from an organization they just left just so the ministers from the organizatoin they left may find a good article to read. I think not.
People invest money in the hopes of gaining something from it. Be it more money or more members.

EXACTLY. This is why it is unethical.

George 12-04-2008 02:20 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 646713)
Exactly. Hatred creates blinders. Charisma Today somehow found my address on a distribution list and sent me a FREE copy. How unethical!

Bet they didn't keep sending it to you for over a year. BTW, they were trying to solicit you with their "FREE" mag.

WPF won't give up on their solicitation.

George 12-04-2008 02:21 PM

Re: Prosthelizing from new org
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 646730)
What helps put this in perspective is the fact that every one of them would have a huge problem with this happening in their local assembly. It is not the same as receiving a Circuit City circular in the mail. That is a ludicrous comparison.

Your speaking truth.


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