Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

I would not say you have taken an easy way. But I would say you have taken a way that is more pleasing to the world. I mean no offense by that. Just how I see it.

I am not sure what makes this forum Apostolic. From everything I have seen so far people here detest everything that makes Apostolics who they are.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

Hey, welcome aboard! God bless you bro.

Here's a little about my family. I don't wear shorts unless I'm swimming or at the beach. I wear a T-shirt if in mixed company at the beach or the pool. I do wear short sleeves on occasion. My wife has cut hair just below her shoulders and wears a touch of make-up occasionally. The only jewelry she wears is a wedding band (mine doesn't fit anymore, I lost over 70 pounds last year). She also doesn't wear "pants" unless she's working out (all women). She wouldn't think of wearing pants to church or out and about. Her blouses are conservative in neckline and sleeve length.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

NO I am not. How ever It is clear that there should be clothing that is distinctly mens and distinctly womens.

If women have dress and skirts. Plus wear pants. Then men have nothing that is distinct to men. This is a problem.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

No offense bro...but this is only if your measure of being "Apostolic" is strictly based on the way they dress. ;)

Most here are strong advocate of Oneness and Acts 2:38 to the core.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

Ideed, there is no reason we can't all be polite and coordinate - not because we agree exactly - but in spite of it.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

I believe in repentance, Jesus' name baptism and receiving the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues. That makes me "apostolic" I guess. I also believe in living a holy, separated and sanctified life. It's just that my definition of that differs from yours. You interpret the scriptures one way; I interpret them another. That doesn't make me any more worldly than you, just different. I hope I am nothing like the world's system; because I live everyday to please the Lord.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

Demanding upon the Victorian standard for the placement of a woman's inseam seems to be a silly preoccupation to me. What of the "holiness" people in the 1800's who complained about the styles that were current then and longed for their own "old landmarks?"

The statement you cite in Proverbs involved respecting another man's fields and inheritance. Another verse just a bit further: Proverbs 23:10, clearly shows that the landmark was to keep people from stealing land and crops from those who were weaker than they. Job 24:2 echoes this same concern.

So when we look at the history of the Apostolic Faith movement and see that history being rewritten as it is here, or being covered up and even just forgotten - how should we respond?

When some one says - The Bogomils and Albigensians were One God tongue talking people - they are removing important and very old landmarks.

When they airbrush out Sister Morgan's discrete pearl necklace from the pictures at UPC HQ - they are removing our landmarks.

When they hide the facts about the true teachings and writings of men like A.D Urshan, Howard Goss, John Dearing, Frank Ewart and so many others - they are removing the old landmarks.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

I agree! I mean, I get along great with all of you charismatics, oh, I mean, fellow AFFers!








sorry, I couldn't resist! :ursofunny j/k

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

See that is the problem you don't all even agree with the basic doctrine. I do not believe dress is the only thing that defines us but I do believe it to be apart of it. God was concerned with it so I am.

I do appreciate your spirit. I do not mean to be offensive. I am just passionate.

Re: I refuse to remove the landmarks
 

bh, this forum truly is no place for this discussion because they will slam you to kingdom come and say they are being Christlike about it. I was a lurker long before I joined.

I too believe in holding to the old paths, but even when I have seen people write personal testimonies of their own convictions I have seen the people on here tell them that what they experienced was not real.

For example, myself.....when I was 13 I trimmed my hair and God lifted the anointing from me for 1 year. When I would sing, there was no anointing. Now, someone on here will say that is not true as though I don't know my own relationship with God and don't really know what happened to me. Sad.

Anyways, I am with ya bro. I have had too many friends who walked away from exterior consecration and they have lost their anointing. I will not argue the point with ANYONE!