Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

Please provide a source for that. While you're at it, provide sources for all of the questions. But mainly the first one.

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

I have no problem explaining. I travel between them to see family,. People like your self don't want truth. America has open borders and all kinds of week, poor etc sneak in. Millions of them. That skews the life expectancy downward. We also use a lot of cocaine from Muslim afghanistan. Muslims there are addicted and ship us drugs. we have a life expectancy for smokers and people with aidws that live longer than most Muslim countries.

You have no room to talk. Muslims sure whine a lot.

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(laughing) Who is talking about Muslims anyway? Who is whining? The only Muslim country on the "list of countries where life expectancy exceeds the US" is the UAE. You think people don't drink, smoke, or use drugs in Europe, Canada, or Australia? LOL for that matter, the Netherlands, where drugs are legal, have higher life expectancy than the US. What say you to this Coadie?

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

Kathleen Sebelius will have the power to alter almost every aspect of this bill without any oversight.

But they’re not going to tell us how to raise our children, right? No, of course not. They’re just going to counsel us on the correct way to raise our children.

(1) IN GENERAL.—In this section, the term ‘eligible expenditures’—

(A) means expenditures to provide voluntary home visitation for as many families with young children (under the age of school entry) and families expecting children as practicable, through the implementation or expansion of high quality home visitation programs that—

(i) adhere to clear evidence-based models of home visitation that have demonstrated positive effects on important program-determined child and parenting outcomes, such as reducing abuse and neglect and improving child health and development;

(ii) employ well-trained and competent staff, maintain high quality supervision, provide for ongoing training and professional development, and show strong organizational capacity to implement such a program;

(iii) establish appropriate linkages and referrals to other community resources and supports;
(iv) monitor fidelity of program implementation to ensure that services are delivered according to the specified model; and

(v) provide parents with—

(I) knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains (including knowledge of second language acquisition, in the case of English language learners);

(II) knowledge of realistic expectations of age-appropriate child behaviors;

(III) knowledge of health and wellness issues for children and parents;

(IV) modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices;

(V) skills to interact with their child to enhance age-appropriate development;

(VI) skills to recognize and seek help for issues related to health, developmental delays, and social, emotional, and behavioral skills; and

(VII) activities designed to help parents become full partners in the education of their children;

My first thought after reading this – what if I say no – I don’t want your voluntary inspection of my family. What will be the ramifications to the families that choose not to volunteer? Will the State consider this an act of someone with something to hide? Will the next step be for Child Protection Services to be contacted just to make sure our children are o.k.?

Section 440

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

Then I am off mine too. Brittan has a panel that decides who gets meds and who is too sick.

so do a lot of countries where this kind of healthcare has been in place for any length of time.

Palin was dead on accurate.

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

But in the UK, panel or not, they live longer. Best healthcare in the world? What say the lot of you to being ranked 23rd in lifespan?

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

I think it has been clearly demonstrated and proven.

Go read the bills. Then read Dr Ezekiels long winded rant in the Lancet. I don't read the Lancet much because it is more political than the JAMA and other domestic magazines.

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

You have a healthy mind

so does Hannan. He is warning us as friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI6uy...layer_embedded

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

I wish someone could show proof of these death panels. Everyone says this but no one can show where it is the case in his health care bill.

Re: "death panels" obamacare
 

Exactly and they load up their folks and trip to the Cleveland clinic. What does that tell ya? Bring all their wives and body guards and hit Cleveland.
There is no doubt in my mind that obesity which you leave out is not offset by fancier cath Labs. Childhood diabetes is booming here as is suicide. So what. Having "reformed" health insurance won't stop consumption of tons of junk foods. My daughter tried out for the Olympics in the heptathlon. Many of her classmates are chunky. We all go to the same hospitals. Our three children have had 10 friends die in the last few years. Not a single death could be prevented by an improved health insurance system.