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Re: The God We Dont Know

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1200718)

The media has said it was a storm of BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS.

Yes, that proves it.

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1200681)

I do believe that God allows judgement to fall, but is it not interesting that it was those Democrats whose greatest representation are in the Northeast and Pacific Coast states that received the brunt of this tragedy? The Bible says that God is not mocked, yet they scorned Him and His holy city. Not all parts of the nation are equal either. The Northeast is where our nation was founded, and where the largest of His provision was displayed in our earliest days. Why then is it not surprising that He would send chastisement upon them in greater measure than upon the rest of the nation which had fewer such situations?

Right Jay. Although it is hard to know which storms are the Judgement of God, if this changes the election, then I will believe it was from God. And even at that I’m not saying it wasn’t.

But look at it this way. There are many, many people in that area, that would vote for Obama. What if, because of power shortage or destroyed vehicles, some can’t vote?

I wouldn't have been surprised, if Obama hadn't delayed the Election, because of that.

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Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1200688)

Interesting.

Did you snort Jay's Ajax?

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1200816)

Did you snort Jay's Ajax?

Well! sigh---I hate to be stupid, but what is Ajax?

Re: The God We Dont Know

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1200567)

The God of judgment and righteousness has been forgotten. Very few would say that the storm that hit the east was sent to punish the region for their ways. Yet the God of the Bible is consistently presented as being a God who loves righteousness and hates iniquity.

As we move into the end times the modern Christian will have to reconcile to this truth. God is not removed from the world events but rather many times is their author. Up until the last 30-40 years Christians knew this. A steady diet of teaching that God is just "nice" and always doing good for creation has dulled our remembrance of the Bible God.

While we should mourn over the loss of life and the destruction that comes in the wake of his judgment we also need to realize this in only the beginning of what God is going to do to nations that forget him or acknowledge his reality.

We need to be able even in grief for people affected to be able to justify God when he does act in judgment.

MTD, you make many assertions that carry no genuine weight. You say, "As we move into the end times". First, what constitutes "End Times"? Your interpretation of Scripture? Your idea what the Book of Revelation means? Do we trust you, or, WHO do we trust to bring us the truth regarding the "END".

I've been a Christian for decades, and more people have said, "These are the last days", than I can count and their predictions and ideas regarding the future ended in lies. This has caused great doubt within Faith because "Crackpots" have leaked the wrong information to a gullible and ignorant Church.

The World may be on the precipice of the last note or song, but to assume we are in troubled times, which can be compared to the past via History, we might find things are not as bad as you say.

When Colonists came to America, many were butchers and thieves, with no law to govern their actions. Murder, robberies, forgery, bogus executions, slavery, these and more plagued this Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Moving forward, those who perished in WWII hover between 80-100 million people (Some statistics are much higher). How would you or I weigh the above atrocities from the past, compared to today?

Does the child molester hide his/her sin easier today? How about the abuser? Could Hitler deceive the World like he did in the 1930’s? Are people more accountable to Law and Order today, unable to rob banks or kill citizens like they did 200 years ago? How about manipulation; can people find solid truth today, causing the Church to back down from hype or emotion that leads to deception?

If we were to unveil the historical practices of Centuries ago, we would find unbelievable Human Crimes against the Nations and Countries that existed at that time. Rome was known for treachery, rape, vast and vile orgies, and the slaughter of countless, innocent people. Their march to conquer the World made Hitler look like a Saint.

I don’t want to discount our troubles and woes, but I think it’s fair for the sake of Truth to take an honest look into History, validating the nature of our current Society.

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Not weighing in on the current discussion, just have a simple question: has anyone else felt like there has been far more calamity (natural or man-made, ie 9/11, school shootings, etc) in the past 10 years than at any time prior? Personally, I have a strong feeling that our world is unraveling in many ways.

Feeling, mind you - not scientific. No data. Could be wrong. Just wondering if anyone else has this feeling.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon (Post 1200841)

No. It gets more airtime.

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Indigestion I tell you!

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1200618)

Not every storm is a judgment. Some are maybe more than we think. Of course nowadays few think ANY are. You all have heard Preachers say God is going to judge America over sin. Yet when he does most shut their eyes and reject that he did it. It has always been like that. They (judgments) will multiply both in number and intensity.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1200650)

Then how do we know a storm is a judgement of God? Storms happen all the time. The east coast has been battered by storms since before the white man settled and the west coast earthquakes

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1200772)

And Insurance companies sometimes describe a tree falling on a house "an act of God"...is that how we know it was the judgement of God?

....Or simply "Mayhem, like me!"?

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1200901)

....Or simply "Mayhem, like me!"?

Love those commercials!!!