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Ferd 09-15-2015 10:40 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1391477)
Revelation 13:16 the mark χάραγμα isn't an implantable device, but an engraving, made with a signet, or sculpting tool, like a chisel.

In Revelation 20:4 specifically says upon their foreheads. In the Textus Receptus it literally says that upon the forehead and upon the hand. Nothing remotely close to something being injected or implanted.
brother will all due respect, I am seriously not allowing any implantation of an electrionic devise on my body...


just say'n

shazeep 09-15-2015 11:06 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
me, neither! Mercury, fluoride, chlorine, antibiotics, etcetcetc, no problem :lol

TJJJ 09-15-2015 11:07 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Sean...

You face the interpretation problem that all dispensationalists face.

There is no place in the Book that prophecies a cashless society. Nowhere.

So......

To say that scoffers against that false interpretation are a sign of the times....?

When you could be classified as a FALSE prophet because of your stance on that issue.

So you, being a false prophet, become a very sign of what you think will happen?

Circular reasoning is never accurate.

shazeep 09-15-2015 11:10 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
you point to a principle that we all have trouble accepting, i think; "if you, being evil..."
it is hard, but i try to think of myself as evil, and others as having some truth for me now.

Godsdrummer 09-16-2015 08:15 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
I am forever amazed that people can read into scripture what is not there in complete disregard to the command not to do just that.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Where pray tell me does these verses say anything about a cashless society, or a computer chip implantation. It speaks of a visible mark, period. If it were a invisible mark, most people are already lost for they already do most of their business with an invisible number they carry in their purse or wallet.

Sean 09-16-2015 08:23 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1391528)
Sean...

You face the interpretation problem that all dispensationalists face.

There is no place in the Book that prophecies a cashless society. Nowhere.

So......

To say that scoffers against that false interpretation are a sign of the times....?

When you could be classified as a FALSE prophet because of your stance on that issue.

So you, being a false prophet, become a very sign of what you think will happen?

Circular reasoning is never accurate.





Tjjj, Loren etc....

I am not prophecying here. (Just observing)

A cashless society is the ONLY way that this could be fulfilled in the future....


Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

A cashless society eliminates ANYONE that tries to buy or sell without permission from the system.

Can you think of another way to control buying or selling?

Sean 09-16-2015 08:27 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391476)
Good discussion......Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.




It takes cash money to buy and sell.

Just remove the cash exchange system and prevention/oversight of buying and selling will be accomplished.
:nod

Sean 09-16-2015 08:29 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1391504)
He wasn't talking to us.


Then ignore it.:throwrock

seguidordejesus 09-16-2015 08:30 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391476)
Good discussion......Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.




It takes cash money to buy and sell.

Just remove the cash exchange system and prevention/oversight of buying and selling will be accomplished.
Sounds like there's plenty of cash if you have the "mark."

Sean 09-16-2015 08:32 AM
Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Whatever the mark is, it is connected to buying/selling.


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