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Digging4Truth 07-03-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 174345)
The number is uncountable according to John and as numerous as the starts of the heaven according to God speaking to Abraham

Many things in the Bible are allegorical.

Should we be able to ascertain the actual number of people who have lived from Adam until now would we not be able to measure that number... and that is counting lost and saved.

Timmy 07-03-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 174786)
Much less than will be in hell. There will even be some trying to get in and for some reason won't be able to.

What about the embryos that never made it full term? See post #1. For every baby that's born and grows up (most of whom go to hell, presumably), there's probably a dozen or more embryos that are never implanted in the womb, or are aborted before birth.

Doesn't life begin at conception?

RevDWW 07-03-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 174809)
What about the embryos that never made it full term? See post #1. For every baby that's born and grows up (most of whom go to hell, presumably), there's probably a dozen or more embryos that are never implanted in the womb, or are aborted before birth.

Doesn't life begin at conception?

Are you worried there won't be enough room? :killinme

Timmy 07-03-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 174929)
Are you worried there won't be enough room? :killinme

No, the more the merrier! :yahoo

Just thought it was interesting, that's all. Will the ones saved by Acts 2:38 (a very small percentage of all the humans that have lived so far!) be far outnumbered by babies (mostly unborn, some that died young)? Come on you guys, you do believe that life begins at conception, don't you? And every human life is (or has) a spirit, right?

BTW, is there Scriptural support for the "age of accountability" doctrine? (Is that what you guys call it, where a child that dies before understanding the choices will go to Heaven?)

crakjak 07-03-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 174671)
God told Abraham that in his seed all the nations of the earth would be blessed, and that Abraham's seed would be as the "stars in the heavens. "

With the above in mind lets read Isaiah 40:26:

"Lift up your eyes on high
And see who has created these stars,
The One who leads forth their host by number.
He calls them all by name;
Because of the greatness of His might and the strength of His power.
Not one of them is missing."



Let him that has ears hear what the Spirit declared thru the prophet Isaiah!!!!

God will not lose one of His creation, He will eventually bring each one into right relationship with Himself. Then every knee will bow every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father, and then the whole earth will be filled with His glory, then none will say "know the Lord" for "ALL WILL KNOW HIM, FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST." Then the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.

Bump:fireworks:fireworks:fireworks:fireworks

Timmy 07-19-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 174328)
Over in Deep Waters, there's a thread about birth control. It was explained that some types of birth control often result in the death of an embryo, the "pill" and IUDs being examples.

Also, many embryos simply fail to implant in the uterine wall, with no help from birth control. And, there are many miscarriages at various stages of pregnancy, not to mention abortions.

If life begins at conception, all these embryos had spirits that will have eternal life. Is that correct? And every one of them will be in Heaven, correct?

If this is correct so far, then I suspect that the vast majority of Heaven's population will consist of these souls that never saw life on Earth outside of the womb, and many babies and small children who died. Depending on how many adults do wind up there, the percentage could be upwards of 99.9%, maybe more! And the numbers could be in the hundreds of billions. Most of them will not see their parents there, of course, and most of the adults that get there by their salvation (Acts 2:38!) will find a lot more of their own children there than they may have expected!

OK, so, discuss! Will there be many billions of people in Heaven, or am I all wet?

Bump!

BoredOutOfMyMind 07-19-2007 02:37 PM

ALL people will be in Heaven.

Only some will have opportunity to STAY!

Timmy 07-20-2007 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 190673)
ALL people will be in Heaven.

Only some will have opportunity to STAY!

Huh? Oh, I guess you mean the judgement? And some will be allowed to stay, and the rest will be sent to hell?

OK, my theory is that the number who stay will vastly outnumber those who don't. I.e., the number of unborn babies who die and children who die before reaching the age of reason will be way more than the ones who grew up and didn't get saved (regardless of how easy or hard that is) and therefore end up in hell.

Neck 07-20-2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 174328)
Over in Deep Waters, there's a thread about birth control. It was explained that some types of birth control often result in the death of an embryo, the "pill" and IUDs being examples.

Also, many embryos simply fail to implant in the uterine wall, with no help from birth control. And, there are many miscarriages at various stages of pregnancy, not to mention abortions.

If life begins at conception, all these embryos had spirits that will have eternal life. Is that correct? And every one of them will be in Heaven, correct?

If this is correct so far, then I suspect that the vast majority of Heaven's population will consist of these souls that never saw life on Earth outside of the womb, and many babies and small children who died. Depending on how many adults do wind up there, the percentage could be upwards of 99.9%, maybe more! And the numbers could be in the hundreds of billions. Most of them will not see their parents there, of course, and most of the adults that get there by their salvation (Acts 2:38!) will find a lot more of their own children there than they may have expected!

OK, so, discuss! Will there be many billions of people in Heaven, or am I all wet?

I did a calculation on this some time back. I will look up my numbers. It will be a large number of people.

Since there have been something like 97 Billion estimated people already having lived in the past 6,600 years.

Neck 07-20-2007 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 174328)
Over in Deep Waters, there's a thread about birth control. It was explained that some types of birth control often result in the death of an embryo, the "pill" and IUDs being examples.

Also, many embryos simply fail to implant in the uterine wall, with no help from birth control. And, there are many miscarriages at various stages of pregnancy, not to mention abortions.

If life begins at conception, all these embryos had spirits that will have eternal life. Is that correct? And every one of them will be in Heaven, correct?

If this is correct so far, then I suspect that the vast majority of Heaven's population will consist of these souls that never saw life on Earth outside of the womb, and many babies and small children who died. Depending on how many adults do wind up there, the percentage could be upwards of 99.9%, maybe more! And the numbers could be in the hundreds of billions. Most of them will not see their parents there, of course, and most of the adults that get there by their salvation (Acts 2:38!) will find a lot more of their own children there than they may have expected!

OK, so, discuss! Will there be many billions of people in Heaven, or am I all wet?


Here was the numbers I came up with...

How many of us total humans will end up in heaven?

Here are some stats on our existance:

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html

From: 01/01/01
732,774 days can be converted to one of these units:
• 63,311,673,600 seconds
• 1,055,194,560 minutes
• 17,586,576 hours
• 104,682 weeks
http://www.convertit.com/Go/ConvertI..._Diff_Calc.ASP

Calculated back to 4400 BC: Close to the beginning of time.
2339838 days, or
334262 weeks and 4 days

http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/People.html

If one divides by 25 as an estimate of average lifespan, one estimates that 96,100,000,000 people have lived on the earth.

What if?

1% make it..... almost equal to 1 Billion who would be saved or 1000 Million.

I think folks will be shocked at the crowd on the other side...


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