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George 01-26-2008 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 369185)
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Originally Posted by Diamond Jim (Post 369130)
All of this talk about being at peace with the UPC sounds good politically,but if it was really true,why are they making their young people break all ties with their friends from other UPC churches?

Interesting comment.That has been a common conversation lately of late.
anyone else know about this or have facts, stories,etc ?
First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

rgcraig 01-26-2008 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by George (Post 369194)
First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....
This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!

Weary Pilgrim 01-26-2008 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 369169)
I do wish that more folks had the same perspective, and were looking for the "God in them all", rather than looking at the humanity of it all.

It might help if everyone from all standpoints admitted that there is a human side to this situation as well.

Has there been any admission? No not at all,and I believe that is what frustrates a lot of people.

George 01-26-2008 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 369196)
This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!
My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

Barb 01-26-2008 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 369184)
Live and let live. It will all work out.

People are people. Men will be men. And God is over it all. He knows what we don't know. He sees what we don't see. He's keeping accurate count and account.

Don't worry. Be happy.

:thumbsup
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 369187)
Good advice.
Yes it is, PP, and I apologize for crossing a line today when responding to your posts.

God does indeed know it all...

Weary Pilgrim 01-26-2008 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by George (Post 369194)
First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

Absolutely true!!!

In fact, there was a young girl from a Tulsa bound church that was forced to break up with her boyfriend "because he was UPC".Her boyfriend happend to be the pastor's son!

rgcraig 01-26-2008 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by George (Post 369203)
My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.
This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.

George 01-26-2008 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond Jim (Post 369197)
It might help if everyone from all standpoints admitted that there is a human side to this situation as well.

Has there been any admission? No not at all,and I believe that is what frustrates a lot of people.
You are right. Frustrated is a good word. A month ago, 2 executive council members and more than 5 general council members of WPF denied they were forming an organization. Why didn't they admit the truth immediately? We all know it is an organization and has been in the making for a lot longer than a month.

Barb 01-26-2008 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 369210)
This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.
I know of a father and son out West...it is heartbreaking indeed.

StMark 01-26-2008 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by George (Post 369203)
My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?

what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?


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