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Ron 02-04-2008 12:19 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Knowing the lack of ethics that is taught,or practiced in the Philippines, I am not surprised!

StMark 02-04-2008 02:01 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron (Post 379133)
Knowing the lack of ethics that is taught,or practiced in the Philippines, I am not surprised!

now this is a loaded statement.

are you broad sweeping all Philippino's?? have you had business dealings with them ??

Thumper 02-04-2008 02:29 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Mark,

Look at the picture of Ron and his wife

:)

StMark 02-04-2008 02:45 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 379314)
Mark,

Look at the picture of Ron and his wife

:)
yes, i know T. i just couldn't believe Ron would say something against his wife's people like that

Ron 02-04-2008 02:47 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StMark (Post 379354)
yes, i know T. i just couldn't believe Ron would say something against his wife's people like that
I am married into the culture but not blind either!

I am sorry, but ethics is either not taught, nor really practiced like it should over there both in Church & in business!

Straightline 02-04-2008 05:10 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
I believe the Missions statement of the WPF is to "find and facilitate" local indigenous works.
If the WPF wants to support men in the 'ppines, what would be wrong with that??
You actually think they will steal churches away from the UPC?

I am no apologist for the WPF, but most missionaries welcome support from wherever they can get it, not just FMD. Why can't the national pastors do the same?

When will the UPC get rid of that US vs. THEM mentality?


It's hard to stir the pot
in a
Straightline

George 02-04-2008 05:23 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 379025)
Lets rephrase that another way so we cover all the bases.


"If the Filipino church is so sufficient they can send their own missionaries to other parts of the world, the only reason they would join the UPCI is for promised money. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Foreign language is "money."
The UPCI started their work and that is why they are part of it. There wasn't a "joining." It was a beginning. The churches grew large enough to support itself and others.

Hoovie 02-04-2008 05:26 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightline (Post 379514)
I believe the Missions statement of the WPF is to "find and facilitate" local indigenous works.
If the WPF wants to support men in the 'ppines, what would be wrong with that??
You actually think they will steal churches away from the UPC?

I am no apologist for the WPF, but most missionaries welcome support from wherever they can get it, not just FMD. Why can't the national pastors do the same?

When will the UPC get rid of that US vs. THEM mentality?


It's hard to stir the pot
in a
Straightline

I don't doubt such a mentality exists but given the events of last few months this statement is laughable.

No one asked THEM to leave...

they are welcome to remain ultraconservative regardless how inconsistent it is.

George 02-04-2008 05:28 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightline (Post 379514)
I believe the Missions statement of the WPF is to "find and facilitate" local indigenous works.
If the WPF wants to support men in the 'ppines, what would be wrong with that??
You actually think they will steal churches away from the UPC?

I am no apologist for the WPF, but most missionaries welcome support from wherever they can get it, not just FMD. Why can't the national pastors do the same?

When will the UPC get rid of that US vs. THEM mentality?


It's hard to stir the pot
in a
Straightline
Why do they need to take control over established churches? If it is all about winning souls, they should send their own missionary and start their own work - not proselyte another church/organization.

blueaugust 02-04-2008 05:35 PM
Re: WPF in talks with Philippines UPC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 378997)
I know of a good independent work there that has been there for nearly 40 years. They have a beautiful headquarters church and bible school and teach a high standard of holiness and very solid on Apostolic doctrine. I know the missionary and many brethren who have been there through the years. This group is not going to become part of the WPF.
Bro. Epley, would you be so kind to perhaps name this church?


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