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Re: The Inerrancy Of The Bible.
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I can see amost every poster filtering this post through their own doctrinal lenses. That's exactly what the translators did. Everybody is drawn toward the version which most closely agrees with their doctrinal position, therefore no possibility for change of mind (repentance). Jesus most often quoted from the Septuigent Version, but that's only OT. The only really important doctrine is to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Believe that Jesus' death and shed blood washed away our sins; believe that Jesus' bruises and broken body bore away our sicknesses; and believe that though Jesus' poverty we have enough provision for ourselves and some left over to give to others. Everything else is unimportant. Believing the Gospel of Jesus always results in water baptism in Jesus' name and Holy Spirit baptism. Believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ will always produce everything that is necessary in the Believer's life. So it's not really that important which version you use. It's all about the cross, nothing else. |
Re: The Inerrancy Of The Bible.
I do call them errors...but I understand that it's easy to misread a Hebrew word. I also understand that it's errors in understanding...the translators of the KJV Bible spoke KJV English. English has changed over the last 400 years. If we read it through as if it's written in modern English, we're going to misunderstand and misapply some things that were perfectly clear to the readers then, and not so much to us now.
And you're right..translating is extremely difficult to do without bias. Quote:
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And the claim that all the errors we have in today's copies of the Bible (regardless of the language) came from human error in copying, translating, etc. has major problems: 1. It disproves the scriptures that claim God will preserve His word. (Maybe those are some of the errors we are talking about!) 2. It leaves us with no basis for knowing what God's word really is. Scholarship has done an impressive job, but there are still gaps and discrepancies. 3. I seriously doubt that this alone can explain all the errors and contradictions. Unless we are to accept that some of the errors we are talking about are actually mistakes in the canonization itself. Maybe the original manuscript of Exodus isn't inspired after all, or Numbers, or James, or Genesis. |
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We don't have the original texts, so yep. There's room for errors there too. My pastor...has studied a lot more than I have so I'm going to go with what he says about this. lol He says that the current texts and the oldest known texts have very few differences between them. That leaves scholars *fairly certain* that the texts as they stand now are reliable.
1. And I see this the other way around. That there are few differences between the oldest known texts and the texts in existence today (and here I clarify that I'm *only* referring to the Old Testament here) leaves me fairly confident that God has preserved His Word. Note the use of fairly. (and while I'm posting on this...any references that specifically state God will preserve His word, spoken or written? I'd like to look at them...) 2. See above about the few differences between texts. I definitely agree there are still things that are in question..but there are so many fewer of those in the original language (that being Hebrew..since I'm only discussing the Old Testament here). 3. :) Quote:
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Are you a fan of Bart Ehrman? Try reading some of Dan Wallace's stuff. |
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But yeah, maybe my "no basis" comment was bloated. Should have said "shaky basis" or something. With the originals lost, even the most brilliant scholars cannot say with certainty what was in them. |
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Thhis is why I'm glad Jesus never promised to leave us a book to go by. He did promise (and did!) leave us His Holy Spirit to guide ius into all truth.
I know God heals, because I have seen God heal..instantly, and unqestionably. I know God can deliver- and save, because I have experienced his delivering and saving power. I know Acts 2:38 is right because I repented, was baptized in Jesus Name and recieved the gift of the Holy Ghost, just like He said I would. I know He blesses- He has blessed me in more times than I can count. And in ways that I can't even begin to describe. In fact, I can honestly say this: EVERY promise He has made to me, He has fulfilled everyone. Well, except one... and its coming! And, I willl go out on a limb and say this as well: Every promise He has given us in His Word, He has fulfilled that promise (or will do so at some point) in some way in all of our lives. We may not even know it... but I am more than sure He has made Himself real to us in some way. I know the Word is right because It says Jesus would never leave us- and He never has! |
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While I would admit there are a few copyist goofs if you will,in the bible the message that the bible contains is infallible and reliable.
The mistranslation of words would be man's and not God's doing. |
Re: The Inerrancy Of The Bible.
Here is a good article.http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbP..._the_Bible.htm
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