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Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

Yes, fat people are going to hell.

BTW, some of you need to do a study on gluttony so you can understand the definition.

Hint: It's not the mere act of overeating.

Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 662323)

Yes, fat people are going to hell.

BTW, some of you need to do a study on gluttony so you can understand the definition.

Hint: It's not the mere act of overeating.

And, where did you read that anyone said fat people are going to hell?

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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 662145)

You got that right! Unhealthy food is an enormous problem. Just look at the lables on the packages of the stuff we put down our throats.

Remember the story about the guy that "Supersized" at McDonalds for a month to prove the danger of fast food? Doctor told him if he kept eating that garbage he was going to die.

It's interesting you mention "shame". I've written a book called, "The Internet Addiction", dealing with online porn addiction. Porn addiction can begin with "shame". This trap leads people to believe nobody will understand. Nobody will have mercy. I've done something too terrible to forgive.

Shame is litterally conquoered by confession to someone we can trust to help us, not condemn us. If we continue to hide, shame will beat us down to nothing, leading to total catastrophy.

All of us need to confess. This will rid us of shame, renew our hope, and lead us to great strength in Him, because, He will forgive us.

Having a problem with eating is no different. Addictions are basically the same and overcome by the same tactics; Vigorous self control, support, good church, and a wholesome hobby(s) can lead one to total victory. (I do speak from experience here. I can talk about that later.)

Also remember, addictions have the same trigger point; STRESS. Stress seeks relief and we sometimes resort to "things" that are unhealthy, even deadly. Eating is one of those things that people do for relief.

Thanks for your feedback. :gift

To many times though the 'trusted' person you confess to is the one who ruins your life.

They are your friend as long as you lean on them, their addiction IS people like you.

Get better and they get bitter.

I have seen it way too many times with people.

Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps (Post 662325)

And, where did you read that anyone said fat people are going to hell?

Michael, you know as well as I do that since gluttony is a sin, and gluttonous people are fat, then fat people are going to hell!! Elementary, Watson!:gotcha

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 662134)

Well, that's not the only reason why we don't wear make-up. But yeah.

Sigh. Another one of those "fat preachers are hypocrites" thread.

To my knowledge that is the only reason that you don't wear makeup...I think it is crock honestly. If one has the conviction against it that is fine, but it should not be a corporate thing, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Tina (Post 662163)

Just a side note: Don't assume that everyone who is obese is that way because they overeat or don't exercise. There are some serious health issues that cause people to be overweight as well, no matter how little they eat or how much they exercise. (Cushings disease, Adrenal insufficiency, etc)
If this turns into another bash the overweight minister thread, I will petition the rest of admin team to allow me to close it. Once this week was enough....... for those who ended up getting the other thread locked -please don't ruin another thread that started out in the right way.

I agree, my mother was one of them.

Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 662203)

I think some folks think "Sweatin' to the Oldies" means running the aisles to "I'll Fly Away"!

Which, at least many Apostolic churches still allow dancing and running the aisles, at least folks are getting some exercise!

This is funny and true, but from what I have seen is that running a lap does little help bodily health. It does actually raise one heart rate rather quickly and if they are no in great shape it can acutally do damage. If they ran several laps starting slowly then increasing pace until an all out sprint they would benefit much, much more and not be out of breath at the end, or at least not be "AS" out of breath.

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 662323)

Yes, fat people are going to hell.

BTW, some of you need to do a study on gluttony so you can understand the definition.

Hint: It's not the mere act of overeating.

True. It's meaning is broader than food alone. Since you brought it up why don't you share your findings with us.

Re: Is Obesity a Sin?

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 662323)

Yes, fat people are going to hell.

BTW, some of you need to do a study on gluttony so you can understand the definition.

Hint: It's not the mere act of overeating.

I've studied gluttony and it has more to do with over-indulgence of appetities. It also comes from a time when the rich would show off their wealth by eating until they were sick. It's about appetites.

I think the point is being made though, gluttony aside, that we should take care of the temple, which includes just making better decisions with how we eat. I don't think anyone agrees that "fat people are going to hell", not the least of reason being that obesity has many reasons. I can eat the same diet as you but gain more weight. Doesn't mean my eating is out of control. I agree with the premise to the extent that we should take more care of our temples in all things. It certainly is not as black and white as puffing on a cigar.

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 662636)

To my knowledge that is the only reason that you don't wear makeup...I think it is crock honestly. If one has the conviction against it that is fine, but it should not be a corporate thing, IMO.

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Since it's to your knowledge, you certainly have not sat down with the topic before. But I'll let you leave it as a "crock". Have fun with your pancake batter.