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Timmy

07-23-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

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Originally Posted by GrowingPains (Post 776584)

What was Christ's response to Peter in the Garden?
What does it now mean to "turn the other cheek?"
What does "Live by the sword. you will die by the sword" mean?
What does love your enemies mean?

That doesn't prove He will never again command someone to break those commands, as He did in the OT: He said thou shalt not kill, and yet He commanded some to do just that.

Timmy

07-23-2009 05:13 PM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

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Originally Posted by GrowingPains (Post 776586)

No. We aren't all wired the same. My stumbling blocks may not be yours. God knows what's best for me. There's places that aren't good for me to go, that will be consciously fine for others.

The question is whether these "convictions" really come from God. Does God put a conviction against cutting hair into one lady's heart (because, um, that's her "stumbling block"? :hmmm) but not another lady's heart? Maybe I'm missing something. (And you say "Well, duh!" :lol)

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As far as dress, I think we do those out of reverence for how we feel, and do as a sacrifice to God.

Think God is pleased with such "sacrifice"? Would it make Him happy if I sacrificed wearing shorts, say? Or maybe I should give up chocolate? Does it make Him happy if we do things we don't like, or give up things we like? Again, I'm probably missing something. ;)

Irreligious

07-23-2009 08:49 PM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

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Originally Posted by U376977 (Post 776418)

Certainly seems like there is a lot of confusion about them. I know of a pastor who preaches w/out a tie. My pastor says he must wear one in the pulpit. My unc used to never preach in short sleeves. Looks like if all of it were coming from God there would be a little more uniformity. ? It makes sense that they come from our own heart.

I preach in shredded jeans, untucked t-shirt, I sit on a stool and have no pulpit. It's one thing for me to say "Come as you are" and it's another thing to create an environment where people actually can.

As far as the so-called "holiness convictions" go.....I don't understand any of them.

I do, however, understand grace.

commonsense

07-23-2009 09:27 PM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

Personal convictions are just that, personal.
I suspect most convictions are meant to be for an individual to further their own walk with God.

The idea that everyone abide by the same convictions is the basis of legalism.

Jermyn Davidson

07-25-2009 03:21 AM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 776512)

How does it help? Many times in the Bible, God commanded people to kill. You say that was Old Testament and God will no longer command anyone to kill?

Prove it.

I still believing in killing other human beings under the right circumstances.

I still believe it is the will of God for me to kill other human beings under the right circumstances.

Timmy

07-26-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 777696)

I still believing in killing other human beings under the right circumstances.

I still believe it is the will of God for me to kill other human beings under the right circumstances.

Such as when He gives a direct command to kill someone?

Timmy

07-28-2009 10:36 AM

Re: Convictions you don't understand..

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 777696)

I still believing in killing other human beings under the right circumstances.

I still believe it is the will of God for me to kill other human beings under the right circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 778216)

Such as when He gives a direct command to kill someone?

Anyone? If God told you to kill someone, would you? (Nobody has proven that He would not give that command, today. Not that I believe He would, either today or ever, but you guys should, if you believe He speaks to people.)

KWSS1976

07-28-2009 10:41 AM

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Timmy if god told someone to kill someone else who am I to say they were wrong...or truly did not hear from God..As far as god telling me to kill someone I have to say never heard from him on anything so kind of hard to say....

Digging4Truth

07-28-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 776515)

I have convictions, by the way. I don't claim they're from God, though. Such as "it's bad to say God told you something when He didn't".

Is it equally bad to make the call that God did or did not tell someone something when only they and God actually know?

KWSS1976

07-28-2009 10:50 AM

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D4T I also think that away who am I to say they did not hear from God..

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