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10-16-2009 03:43 PM |
Re: I missed the rapture?
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Originally Posted by jmarkoa
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Thank you TK, I do appreciate your patience with me.
First, Mike, this was quite funny! I like this site because of the good attitude, everyone can talk about their views and have fun at the same time!
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Amen!
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Also Mike, I still don't really understand the first part of what you believe, that part you share with the full preterist, the stuff that happened in 70AD, and where you draw the line as to where we are in the book of Revelation.
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It's actually all on my site. But I believe we're at the point in time that is partway through Rev 20 before the white throne. Full preterists believe all of Rev is fulfilled. So where I differ with full preterism is that I believe there is a future physical resurrection and that Jesus will physically and visibly return again. They do not believe that. I believe satan will be banished from the earth along with sin and anyone who is a sinner. They do not believe that.
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Plus, I have yet to see anyone talk about the scriptures in light of the actual historical event. I'm starting to get the impression that once you accept the time line, there is no need to understand how the event shed new light on the scriptures. Bur rather, the new thinking changes much of the literal events written in Revelation into symbolism and allegories. This is only my view of how I think you view much of Revelation. For some reason, I am just not quite getting it...
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Actually, look at it this way. Revelation is so full of symbolism and it does not interpret so much of the symbols, that we have to realize it can only be saying this: It is a symbolic picture of everything the Lord and apostles taught about. There is nothing in revelation that is not taught somewhere else in plain manner in the rest of the bible. If we start to take visions and interpret them in ways the apostles and the Lord never taught anything about, we are in error.
That being said, I really believe the view I have taken is the correct one.
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TK and Mike, I guess this whole question is really just way too big. There are so many things that we could talk about, so lets just try focusing on one small set of scriptures at a time. Hopefully this will help.
And, let me clear up something I probably said wrong about the time thing. I was referring to the thousand years in Revelation 20:2-5. Lets try to just focus on these four scriptures for a while. Do we all agree that this thousand years is a real time frame, because it is stated quite differently than that of Psalms 90:4, Ecclesiastes 6:6, and 2 Peter 3:8?
Do we also all agree that at the end of verse 4 where it says, "...they lived and reigned with Christ..." that this is a real life event? Where that we will be kings and priests with Christ, and be in a real physical form and sit down and eat together, just as the disciples ate together at the last supper?
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I believe the only thrones we will sit on are spiritual and we are on them now. Some folks do not believe anything is real unless it is physical. But Eph 2:5-6 says we are seated with Christ now on the throne. The Kingdom is now. It is not physical. Never will be.
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