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Sam 03-08-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 884639)
So, are you saying that it's okay to have tattoos as long as you are not doing it for the dead?

If the prohibition against cutting the flesh and tattoing the flesh are both for the dead, then a tattoo which is not for the dead would not be wrong.

Besides, that was Old Covenant, under the Law. If there is no NT prohibition against tattoos they are not wrong.

John Atkinson 03-08-2010 10:30 PM

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Twice I almost got inked twice, once as a Navy Submariner, once as a member of a heavy metal band, I don't regret passing on either.


God converted me. What do I need to mark me but his Spirit?

Orthodoxy 03-09-2010 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 884673)
Besides, that was Old Covenant, under the Law. If there is no NT prohibition against tattoos they are not wrong.

There's no NT prohibition against bestiality either.

Twisp 03-09-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 884756)
There's no NT prohibition against bestiality either.

Romans does tell us not to "leave the natural use of a woman". 1 Cor 6:13 tells us that the body is not for fornication. The Greek word for fornication covers all illicit sexual acts, if I am not mistaken.

TheLegalist 03-09-2010 08:28 AM

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Is the tattoo for self glorification? hmmm I didn't know our bodies natural use to God is for that. If it is not then... Also why do you need to tattoo yourself? I always find this a interesting answer and it usually is answered with a question.

TheLegalist 03-09-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 884756)
There's no NT prohibition against bestiality either.

The argument of "if it is not repeated in the NT it doesn't matter" is about as idiotic as it gets. Paul says all scripture is given for instruction in righteousness.

Twisp 03-09-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 884780)
Is the tattoo for self glorification? hmmm I didn't know our bodies natural use to God is for that. If it is not then... Also why do you need to tattoo yourself? I always find this a interesting answer and it usually is answered with a question.

If you go down that road, then you could say the same thing about fixing your hair, plucking your eyebrows, trimming your nose hairs, using any kind of facial/body creme, medicinal or otherwise, ect...

TheLegalist 03-09-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 884784)
If you go down that road, then you could say the same thing about fixing your hair, plucking your eyebrows, trimming your nose hairs, using any kind of facial/body creme, medicinal or otherwise, ect...

nope, incorrect. tattoos are not grooming. Totaly different thing. Try again! The aspect of men cutting there hair shows basic grooming/maintenance is allowed.

Twisp 03-09-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 884785)
nope, incorrect. tattoos are not grooming. Totaly different thing. Try again! The aspect of men cutting there hair shows grooming is allowed.

I didn't say cutting your hair. I said fixing your hair. Cutting it short is one thing, and would be considered grooming. Fixing it in a certain style could be considered even more superficial than getting a tattoo, since you do it to look nice to other people. A tattoo, as far as I know, is usually more of a personal preference that is not usually seen by other people.

TheLegalist 03-09-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 884791)
I didn't say cutting your hair. I said fixing your hair. Cutting it short is one thing, and would be considered grooming. Fixing it in a certain style could be considered even more superficial than getting a tattoo, since you do it to look nice to other people. A tattoo, as far as I know, is usually more of a personal preference that is not usually seen by other people.

I don't believe in making ones hair something of a glorified mess. It should be nice and kept. Mild organization that does not bring attention to oneself. You might want to read how the early church in the first few centuries looked at this stuff. You might be amazed and how they clearly limited any type of elevating oneself in appearance.


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