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trialedbyfire 10-22-2012 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1197805)
Unless you came out of the womb sanctified, justified and according to some doctrine speaking in tongues you to were a fool an enemy of God.
Nobody says I wasn't... I recognize the grace and mercy of God on my life, but that does not change the fact that their actions are foolish. I had to learn that the lifestyle I was living was a foolish way of thinking and living before I turned away from it. I'm not going to sugar-coat sin, it's foolish when I sin it's foolish when you sin. Thank God we have an opportunity at deliverance through the power of the Holy Ghost.

navygoat1998 10-22-2012 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1197856)
Nobody says I wasn't... I recognize the grace and mercy of God on my life, but that does not change the fact that their actions are foolish. I had to learn that the lifestyle I was living was a foolish way of thinking and living before I turned away from it. I'm not going to sugar-coat sin, it's foolish when I sin it's foolish when you sin. Thank God we have an opportunity at deliverance through the power of the Holy Ghost.
:highfive

trialedbyfire 10-22-2012 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1197815)
Ya, actual accountability? What are you thinking, T2W? :lol
Accountability: if you want to know where your money is going then ask. If you can't trust your pastor with your money, don't give it to him. Personal responsibility. Government shouldn't be involved in the finances of churches and what pastors do with money, period.

AreYouReady? 10-22-2012 10:24 PM
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Which government? The Church government or the IRS?

trialedbyfire 10-22-2012 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1197914)
Which government? The Church government or the IRS?
The difference is, you won't go to jail for not paying a church government. It's your personal choice to them every dime you pay them directly. Therefore it's your responsibility to make sure your money is used wisely.

Sam 10-22-2012 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1194212)
They do have one thing right... I'd love to see the tax breaks removed. I think it might help balance things if the church had to pay taxes on that pricey real estate and big building and if ministers had to account for where the money really goes...
aren't tax exemptions for churches "an establishment of religion"?

Timmy 10-23-2012 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197822)
Could it be said that someone who says they hate God doesn't really know God?
:bump

bbyrd009 10-23-2012 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1197908)
Accountability: if you want to know where your money is going then ask. If you can't trust your pastor with your money, don't give it to him. Personal responsibility. Government shouldn't be involved in the finances of churches and what pastors do with money, period.
Wadr, says you. I think the two were meant for each other, for the most part.

bbyrd009 10-23-2012 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1197931)
aren't tax exemptions for churches "an establishment of religion"?
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion means."
Mahatma Gandhi

bbyrd009 10-23-2012 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197988)
:bump
Ha, sure, you can say that. Who can know God? So someone who says they love God doesn't really know God, either, is the thing.


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