Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234444)

i'm trying to convince myself of this. i have 2 books on women in the bible i haven't read yet. if it is not true then you have to explain paul's words. "i suffer not a woman to teach or have authority over a man, let them learn in silence and ask their husbands at home". what does that mean?

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234347)

Paul was not a male chauvinist. He was a Hebrew, a Jew, who lived in the first century.

It was cultural that women wore veils long before Paul was born.

He was no more a male chauvinist for using "Father" instead of "Creator" than Jesus was or Peter

God Himself identified Himself as Father!

2Sa 7:14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men,

All Jews considered God their "Father". ALL Jews did. Male or Female. They did not have personal issues over it like you do or today's psychologically weak generation.

You aren't helping anyone by bowing to a small shrill minority that hate God

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234448)

DM you have the same issue most Christians have, a lack of knowledge of biblical hermeneutics.

When you study the word you have to consider many factors including

Grammer
Context
Author
Audience
When
Where
Idioms

When you do you find out why we are not required to greet each other with a kiss when Paul said to greet each other with a kiss

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234450)

don't confuse topics. paul said all women should wear veils. was that the "inspired" word of god or a fallible verse of scripture from paul speaking from a "cultural context"?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234453)

so what is the correct interpretation then genius?

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234464)

Don't get offended. Learn. Get some books on hermeneutics. Get some on figures of speech and idioms.

BTW I already gave you what you need to figure it out. Do you greet your brothers and sisters in Christ with a kiss

Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1234465)

my wife....she is my sister in Christ :nahnah

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234479)

Give the other sisters and brothers a nice wet one on the cheek

Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1234481)

Nope we don't do that unless the sister is old enough to be my mother and or granny. :bigbaby

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234347)

Paul was not a male chauvinist. He was a Hebrew, a Jew, who lived in the first century.

It was cultural that women wore veils long before Paul was born.

He was no more a male chauvinist for using "Father" instead of "Creator" than Jesus was or Peter

God Himself identified Himself as Father!

2Sa 7:14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men,

All Jews considered God their "Father". ALL Jews did. Male or Female. They did not have personal issues over it like you do or today's psychologically weak generation.

You aren't helping anyone by bowing to a small shrill minority that hate God

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1234460)

I didn't confuse a topic. Don't brush off my answer
and pretend I did not answer you


No that is NOT a separate issue. THAT is the topic.

I addresses why Paul said that about women. You dijdn't like it for some reason