Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 374484)

Hopefully not too far off topic here but Pastor, in Bible Study tonight on Philippians 3, was making the point that "forgetting" has more a sense of not allowing the wrongs or sins of the past that have been forgiven to affect or influence us anymore.

We don't "forget" in the sense that we fail to remember and neither does God. How could He? He's God after all.

But we can put that junk in the past where it belongs and where it no longer affects or has any influence on us.

I thought it was a good point and had never heard "forgetting those those things which are behind" explained in that way before.

Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o (Post 374772)

* sigh *

This whole thread has drained me emotionally. Here's how I see it:

Imagine for a moment that someone in your family, whom you love dearly, has does something horribly wrong. You still love that person. You may go visit them ocassionally in spite of the hurt they have caused others. No, you may not agree with the lifestyle they are now living, but that does not mean you are CONDONING (sp?) it...you are just stopping by to say "hi".

For those who are NOT related to that person, they are very quick to jump up and scream "Off with their head". But those who are related want to love the PERSON in spite of what they did. They are not so quick to send them to the gas chambers.

That's what life at JCM was like...it was a family. I not only graduated from there, I went back and worked there....was Lanny's personal secretary. As Pianoman stated earlier, I like to remember the GOOD that he did and the influence he had on our lives. Yes, he was a perfectionist and was quick to cut someone off who didn't measure up. But that made some of us want to strive to do better. He set the bar high, and we excelled because of it.

I was working for him when everything went down. I was sickened by it all. But when I got home that summer, I had to turn on the answering machine because so many people were calling wanting to know "the scoop". Had they actually been in "the family", they would have known it was more than just a "scoop"...it was a life-altering experience.

So whether you want him exiled to an island or you want to have him over for dinner, please keep in mind that for those who experienced the "JCM Family", this is not a black-or-white situation. We tend to look at it from a different perspective.

Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o (Post 374772)

* sigh *

This whole thread has drained me emotionally. Here's how I see it:

Imagine for a moment that someone in your family, whom you love dearly, has does something horribly wrong. You still love that person. You may go visit them ocassionally in spite of the hurt they have caused others. No, you may not agree with the lifestyle they are now living, but that does not mean you are CONDONING (sp?) it...you are just stopping by to say "hi".

For those who are NOT related to that person, they are very quick to jump up and scream "Off with their head". But those who are related want to love the PERSON in spite of what they did. They are not so quick to send them to the gas chambers.

That's what life at JCM was like...it was a family. I not only graduated from there, I went back and worked there....was Lanny's personal secretary. As Pianoman stated earlier, I like to remember the GOOD that he did and the influence he had on our lives. Yes, he was a perfectionist and was quick to cut someone off who didn't measure up. But that made some of us want to strive to do better. He set the bar high, and we excelled because of it.

I was working for him when everything went down. I was sickened by it all. But when I got home that summer, I had to turn on the answering machine because so many people were calling wanting to know "the scoop". Had they actually been in "the family", they would have known it was more than just a "scoop"...it was a life-altering experience.

So whether you want him exiled to an island or you want to have him over for dinner, please keep in mind that for those who experienced the "JCM Family", this is not a black-or-white situation. We tend to look at it from a different perspective.

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 375592)

Excellent post! I also was very involved and worked my behind off for LW back in the day. We were the ones who put on the very first Music Conference and there were a few of us who did everything from running shuttles, arranging food and hotels, etc. etc. etc. Would I trade those days for anything? No! But there were days I could have shot him!:toofunny

However, I know what you mean about the mixed emotions. It was the best and the worst times of our lives.

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 370520)

I told Marietta the message you had for her. I told her that I had no idea who you really are but that her sphere of influence is far reaching. She asked me where I came in from. I told her Dallas. She said, "I still can't imagine anyone driving that far just to hear/see us". She is such a sweet and humble lady.

There was an AOG Pastor and pastor's wife behind me and he reached over and asked me if I knew them I said, "Yes." He asked me if they had changed. I said that Marietta hasn't. I felt good about saying that.

What doesn't kill you - makes you stronger. She is living proof of that.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 370904)

someone who attended sent me 25 pics of the concert.
I bought a new phone over the weekend and can't figure out how to operate this phone - it's the moto Q ???

Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 373698)

My wife attended in 1985.

She left after 1 year.

Some of the girls in the dorms had liter bottles of beer in their dorm rooms.

The rest will go unmentioned.

The legend of JCM is not a urban legend.

My wife's bother attended as did her sister in law.

Mike Taylor and Teresa Wright-Talor. Chester Wrights sister.

My wife's cousin's Lori Lewis-Corrothers, Nancy Lewis and Shelly Lewis also attended.

My brothes wife Sandra Lamb-Eckstadt also attended JCM in the early 80's.


My pastor and his wife also attend and graduated from JCM.

And countless friends.

I decided not to go.

Originally Posted by Markus (Post 375712)

I hope she didn't think I was some weirdo out there. I did get her e-mail address and sent her an e-mail. I don't know if she will respond but it doesn't matter. I just had to tell her about how she impacted my life. I did give her the website of my church so at least she could see the picture of me and my wife and know that my wife and I love the Lord. Thanks for passing the word on.

Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o (Post 374772)

* sigh *

This whole thread has drained me emotionally. Here's how I see it:

Imagine for a moment that someone in your family, whom you love dearly, has does something horribly wrong. You still love that person. You may go visit them ocassionally in spite of the hurt they have caused others. No, you may not agree with the lifestyle they are now living, but that does not mean you are CONDONING (sp?) it...you are just stopping by to say "hi".

For those who are NOT related to that person, they are very quick to jump up and scream "Off with their head". But those who are related want to love the PERSON in spite of what they did. They are not so quick to send them to the gas chambers.

That's what life at JCM was like...it was a family. I not only graduated from there, I went back and worked there....was Lanny's personal secretary. As Pianoman stated earlier, I like to remember the GOOD that he did and the influence he had on our lives. Yes, he was a perfectionist and was quick to cut someone off who didn't measure up. But that made some of us want to strive to do better. He set the bar high, and we excelled because of it.

I was working for him when everything went down. I was sickened by it all. But when I got home that summer, I had to turn on the answering machine because so many people were calling wanting to know "the scoop". Had they actually been in "the family", they would have known it was more than just a "scoop"...it was a life-altering experience.

So whether you want him exiled to an island or you want to have him over for dinner, please keep in mind that for those who experienced the "JCM Family", this is not a black-or-white situation. We tend to look at it from a different perspective.