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RevDWW 02-03-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 698571)
I understand what you are saying.

Guess what I'm trying to process is why do we equate that POWER, what God did for us by His Spirit, the experience, the empowerment to the word Pentecost. I understand it has to do with the Day of Pentecost, but maybe in the past we've focused too much on the word Pentecost and not all that you mentioned - - the gospel, the power, the life change that HE does for us. Pentecost doesn't do it.

Just trying to talk it all out.

Pentecostal because we have the experience first poured out on the Day of Pentecost? That experience is the culmination of the death (repentance), burial(baptism), and resurrection(new life in the Spirit). It's the fulfillment of the Gospel.

Maybe we should strive to be Pentecostal in experience, Apostolic in action.

Ferd 02-03-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 698496)
Ferd - I made a correction for you - -

You said: I plan no latching on to those who still believe the Gospel

Did you mean: I plan on latching on to those who still believe the Gospel

Total opposites.

Thank you!

jaxfam6 02-03-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 698325)
I was going to post a Carol King Youtube video but I figured....why give some OTHER forum fodder?

Nice of you to leave it for me to do. =)

jaxfam6 02-03-2009 11:18 PM

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I find this odd. I grew up in a very conservative group known as the AMF and I always heard it said that we were Pentecostal by experience and Apostolic by doctrinal teaching. I have always thought of myself as both. EVEN NOW
What is so hard about accepting ourselves as both? If we have the Pentecostal experience are we not Pentecostal? If we live according to the Apostles teachings are we not Apostolic? Why do we have to be one or the other?

RevDWW 02-03-2009 11:19 PM

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Apostolics in action.

Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
Act 15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
Act 15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
Act 15:13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
Act 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Act 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
Act 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Apostolics in action.


Working things out!

Pressing-On 02-03-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 698834)
Pentecostal because we have the experience first poured out on the Day of Pentecost? That experience is the culmination of the death (repentance), burial(baptism), and resurrection(new life in the Spirit). It's the fulfillment of the Gospel.

Maybe we should strive to be Pentecostal in experience, Apostolic in action.

We will always be both - no matter who has been a poor example - we will always be both.

We can become like the Republican party - pressured into moving left to find their place in politics - never finding it and now trying to re-define who they should have been all along.

RevDWW 02-04-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 698834)
Pentecostal because we have the experience first poured out on the Day of Pentecost? That experience is the culmination of the death (repentance), burial(baptism), and resurrection(new life in the Spirit). It's the fulfillment of the Gospel.

Maybe we should strive to be Pentecostal in experience, Apostolic in action.

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 698841)
I find this odd. I grew up in a very conservative group known as the AMF and I always heard it said that we were Pentecostal by experience and Apostolic by doctrinal teaching. I have always thought of myself as both. EVEN NOW
What is so hard about accepting ourselves as both? If we have the Pentecostal experience are we not Pentecostal? If we live according to the Apostles teachings are we not Apostolic? Why do we have to be one or the other?

We should be All in all, all things to all people.......We should be Pentestolics and Apocostals........

Jack Shephard 02-04-2009 08:03 AM

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Ed, why do you feel you need a title of any kind? I mean you are what you are because of what you are not what you are called. I might be missing something here. If you teach your children and the children in your assembly then they will know who and what they are no matter what they are called. It really does depends on what part of the country one is in on what is acceptable to describe oneself. Apostolic here in AZ is mainly spanish.

RevDWW 02-04-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 698905)
Ed, why do you feel you need a title of any kind? I mean you are what you are because of what you are not what you are called. I might be missing something here. If you teach your children and the children in your assembly then they will know who and what they are no matter what they are called. It really does depends on what part of the country one is in on what is acceptable to describe oneself. Apostolic here in AZ is mainly spanish.

"A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet" to quote the Bard.

rgcraig 02-04-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 698905)
Ed, why do you feel you need a title of any kind? I mean you are what you are because of what you are not what you are called. I might be missing something here. If you teach your children and the children in your assembly then they will know who and what they are no matter what they are called. It really does depends on what part of the country one is in on what is acceptable to describe oneself. Apostolic here in AZ is mainly spanish.

He must not be too concerned if he doesn't have Pentecostal or Apostolic even in his church name - lol! :ursofunny

Love ya Edward!


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