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There are several levels of crime. If one doesn't keep good records, they can get fined. If the records are incomplete. All the way up to knowingly hiring an illegal and getting involved in falsifying their records. I use recruiters to sometimes recruit and in 1986 they even had a law that citizenship had to be checked before an interview. That was unweildy and was changed.

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Oh please tell me the difference? If it is government healthcare that is WHO runs it!

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Well as I understand it that is the what this is about. Anything the government controls they run. How do you think you can split the difference?

I agree the insurance companies need to be modified.

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It is Government run healthcare. And if your policy ends, you go government option. See page 16. H.R. 3200 says on page 16 that all private coverage will be terminated.
They will have control from conception to shovel ready graves.

Read HR 3200. They will tell private insurance what to do. Page 16 kills the market for private coverage.

I want them to fix the post Office and the vA. If they can do that we can let them try to fix the social secuurity system.

Twisp provides misinformation with enthusiasm.

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... and the government controls what you can and cannot belong to and limits private healthcare in the out years...


It is an intermediate step.


and all the dems in Washington are saying that and I dont know why you refuse to admit it.

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There is a simple test. Tear up the document after it is law and if the government calls the shots, they run healthcare, If nothing happens, then it was just paper.
We know good and well the correct description is "POWER grab".
They already have steered 6-10 billion to GE and Intel to set up a centralized information scheme. It also spells out how people will convert to government data systems and Information technology.

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Humm hadn't heard about that.

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Of course, Mr. Immelt's rhetoric about corporate responsibility was undercut last year when GE's once vaunted financial services business, GE Capital, was forced to ask the government for what amounted to a $140 billion government bailout.

Mr. Immelt's words betray GE's willingness to partner with the Obama government in order to turn a profit. To this end, GE has appointed Mr. Obama's former nominee for secretary of health and human services, Tom Daschle, to the board of advisers for Healthymagination, an initiative launched by General Electric in partnership along with Intel, which will invest $6 billion over the next six years on "health care innovation that will help deliver better care to more people at lower cost."

In 2008, Mr. Daschle wrote the book "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis" in which he explains his radical solutions to the problems in American health care. In the book, Mr. Daschle calls for a British-style Federal Council on health care.

The profitability of GE's new venture will depend heavily on the nationalization of the health care industry. The standardization and streamlining of health care recordkeeping, something on which Mr. Obama ran in 2008, would require a massive government contract for the technology to achieve such standardization.

Mr. Obama has introduced a plan to computerize all health records within five years. Independent studies from Harvard, Rand Corp. and the Commonwealth Fund have estimated that such a plan could cost at least $75 billion to $100 billion over the next 10 years. Healthymagination is readying just such a technology, claiming that they will seek to "increase the use and capability of electronic medical record (EMR) technology and other information technology." With Mr. Obama's ally Mr. Daschle on board, Healthymagination is sure to have more than a leg up on its competition when it comes time to dole out these massive contracts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...orate-sponsor/

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and this aint GE's first round of being in bed with the demonrats in congress.

GE (parent company of NBC) used NBC news to create a "Green week" where they highlighted global warming and all the things that can help slow that.

MANY of their solutions were products that GE makes.

This Green Week happened to take place the week BEFORE Congress voted on a bill that killed the incandecent light bulb in favor of those stupid florecent bulbs that cost a whole not more and provide much worse lighting..... and also are full of mercury that is now filling our landfills....


and guess who is the largest maker of florecetn screw in lightbulbs that are now replacing the incandecent bulb?

GpelosiE

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The real deal is they took 25% of the bank bailout money for GE Credit.Now GE/NBC is the big government Propaganda promoter. Everything from Healthcare technology to Environmental.

GE bought the enron wind deal in california and they are pushing wind energy hard. Both subsidies and mandates legislation.