Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 862354)

I'm so confused!

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 862361)

He is still listed on the ministers database .... https://wec.upci.org/ministers

Perhaps he just disaffiliated the church?

Doing so would have ramifications for Life.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 862365)

options:

1) Dan's right - but why ramifications for Life when so many churches are not affiliated, though its ministers are? Is it a set-up move for what's next?

2) UPCI webmaster is part-time, and needs to log in to AFF more for current news.

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 862354)

I'm so confused!

Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 862344)

Here it is, you first heard it, er read it, on AFF!

JK and DD and DH are meeting in Dallas/ Garlland to talk of forming a new org because DL and KS formed them up a new org in Detroit!

JK and DD have a core of about, 75 or 100 men, that are willing to break from the UPC, WPF, ACI, ALJC, KKK, AAFCJ and PAW, and have already got the by-laws wrote up!

The headquarters are going to be in DH's church there in Garlland, TX.

Further reports coming as the news trickles in!

This is Monte, reporting live from Dallas Texas!

Originally Posted by daii (Post 862366)

the upci church locator is stagnant on upci.org ... But the database stays fairly current especially once dues are not paid ... That is because one can pay dues through the link i provided.

Money keeps things current. :bigbaby

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 862358)

Sure, there are some that left and can't let it go. That's not the point of the thread though. I'm talking about those who want to leave, but see so many reasons and obstacles hindering them (relationships, their churches, their salaries, itineraries, etc). The longer they stay, the more dominating these issues become. There comes a point when you let go. Some sound like they are there, behind closed doors. Maybe they haven't left, because they're not. Maybe they aren't completely settled yet. But the longer they have to sit through camp speakers and foam-from-the-mouth evangelist sputtering out ignorances, the longer the pain goes on.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 862367)

Me too.

AC met DH who gave KD permission from OW to talk to EQ. The meeting with PW and ER will be held tomorrow in Dallas. RW and DS will announce the decision by AC and DH tonight.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 862371)

Dan - why would a church like Life have any ramifications for pulling out their church? Plenty of churches not not affiliated.