Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 874684)

Are you sure this is 1 Pentecostal 5? I thought it was in 3 Pharisees 1065?

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 874686)

Isn't it the same thing?

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 874697)

"Mommy, How do I know if I have the right type of faith, the kind that saves?"

"You will know you have saving faith because you will not want to be mean to you sisters anymore, Tommy. You will want to read the Bible and pray. The things of God will become exciting to you."

"Mommy, How will I know the moment that Jesus comes into my heart?"

"You will know that the same way Peter knew that Cornelius had received Jesus into his heart, you will speak in a language that you don't know."

Originally Posted by El Predicador (Post 874647)

Originally Posted by HaShaliach (Post 874355)

I can't comment about the book, haven't read it - however -

It is unfortunate, but most apostolic identification flags are for show (among men) or for comparison (about men), while a 'good measure' of Apostolic teaching goes ignored (John 13:35 & Acts 2:21), manipulated (Acts 2:38 & 1 Corinthians 15:20-30), or even opposed (Note all of 1 Corinthians 14 for consistency in acceptance and frequent exceptions & Mat 28:19).

Even so, as alluded to above - folks who attempt to elevate the 'apostolic' teaching of the New Covenant among men, often ignore the foundational teaching of the apostolic Master.

My recommendation is to first study Matthew chapters 5-7, then study the apostolic letters, in light of the teaching of Jesus. The next step would be to then take the messages contained in the letters and then over lay them on the book of Acts, to see how the instructions were 'played out' in real life. Throughout this entire effort, check out and study each of the over seven hundred references to the Old Covenant writings, which form the foundation for all of the New Testament teaching.

Perhaps, after all of this, the study of the New Covenant writings will then take on a clearer meaning and reduce some of the religious right/wrong contests, the splitting up of the body of Christ, and the frequent spiritual oneupmanship games we are offered to participate in on so many forums.

Conclusion: Too much of our focus is on ourselves and our own justification, rather on Jesus and the justification He offers. Or, to put it another way: If we would spend more time learning what it is to be a disciple (student) of Jesus Christ than we spend learning to become a disciple of men, we would all become more complete as an apostolic people.

Just a different kind of view from an old mountain man.

Originally Posted by Encryptus (Post 874750)

All you need is love.

Isn't that a Beatles song?

Never knew it was scriptural !!!!!!