Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 108248)

Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 108018)

If this is true, then NOT adopting such a resolution would also divide our fellowship. Some have already left because they don't want to be limited in how they can reach the lost

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 108595)

Prax, it is my long standing and heart felt belief that this has been the goal of a certain group within the UPCI since somewhere before 1992.

I strongly believe that the preference is "they go" but if that cannot be accomplished, "we go" will happen.

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 108288)

I was not thinking of an org. in the sense the UPC is but I can see something along the lines of the AMF.

Perhaps a ministerial org. that could license and ordain like minded ministers and have some sort of minimum ultra con standards codified everyone would agree to.

The org could also provide legal standing as a non profit, etc and group benefits.

I think there are a lot of ultra cons who don't neccessarily share the AMF folks disdain for structure and some centralized organization. I am talking about the folks whose only gripe with the UPC is it becoming more "liberal", not one of how it is organized.

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher (Post 108567)

The main reason no names were used is because the articles were actually somewhat of a "conglomeration" of opinions and/or research put forth by the various members of the committee. Each side had a "recording secretary" who gathered information and assembled it into articles. Thus, no one person could be said to have been the author.

That's the way I understand it. My brother-in-law is actually on the committee, and that's the way he explained it to me.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 108725)

I admit my bias, but I was embarrased for the anti-resoultion camp.

Itwas all doomsday emotional rantings. The idea that they had to use a Charasmatic and an interview from years and years ago spoke volumes regarding how out of touch they really are.

Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 108245)

During the depression there were quite a few door-to-door type salesmen selling everything from Fuller Brush to Electrolux Vacuum cleaners. It was not uncommon in those days for a householder to receive four or five knocks from various salesmen who might be selling Encylcopedias or milk delivery services.

I would say that "times have changed and so have marketing." But I wont. The obvious is THE OBVIOUS. I might also say that the mentality among todays' householders is vastly different too. I am no different than most today, I resent telemarketers and especially someone knocking on my door to peddle their goods and especially their brand of religion.

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher (Post 108762)

I have arrived at a very astute conclusion: Those who favor the resolution thought those opposed did a sorry job of presenting their case. Those opposed to the resolution thought those in favor did a sorry job of presenting their case.

In other words, I don't think anyone's mind was changed. Furthermore, I'm not surprised you were "embarrassed."

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 108791)

So you instead want an advert on TV between half naked people in compromising situations and promotion of sinful lifestyles?

I was in a relative's home and took note of what was promoted on the tube. I reaffirmed right there why I don't even want Home & Garden, Discovery or Animal Planet in my home!

One on One is still the most effective evangelism. I had a lady run me down out side the local Rite-Aid to tell me "Jesus loves you." I would like to get her as a convert!!