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Old Paths 09-20-2007 12:00 PM

:banghead

Truly Blessed 09-20-2007 12:22 PM

Thank God for a voice of reason among all the divisive competing voices that don't have the clarity that DB has on this issue. As often happens the "issue" seems to have become something other than what the resolution was intended to address.

Strongminded 09-20-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 246046)
:banghead

Hence the way an UC reacts to reason......
Interpretation - "Why didnt I think of that"?

LOLOLOL

hometown guy 09-20-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 245996)

I'm not surprised in what DB wrote. He's smart enough to know that the UPC doesn't have much, if any, Biblical legs to stand on in regards to technology - specifically television. And he understands the hypocrisy he'd be in if he spoke against television and left the internet untouched.



JMO

the upc does have legs to stand on regarding t.v.
95% of t.v. goes against the word of God.(i will not dig throgh a trash can for a slice of cake).even are world today teaches that t.v. is not good for you.the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house.

hometown guy 09-20-2007 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 245996)

I'm not surprised in what DB wrote. He's smart enough to know that the UPC doesn't have much, if any, Biblical legs to stand on in regards to technology - specifically television. And he understands the hypocrisy he'd be in if he spoke against television and left the internet untouched.





JMO

and in regards to the internet,there is blocks and filters that will not even let you get in bad areas on the webb.and if its in someone heart they will find ways around it.we cant preach agaist everything but we will preach against sin.if the upci allows advertising on the t.v., may GOD help us!

StillStanding 09-20-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 246344)
and in regards to the internet,there is blocks and filters that will not even let you get in bad areas on the webb.and if its in someone heart they will find ways around it.we cant preach agaist everything but we will preach against sin.if the upci allows advertising on the t.v., may GOD help us!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! :bliss

philjones 09-20-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 245934)
Equal representation? Competition? Control? It is this kind of thinking that makes me breath with relief that we no longer have to deal with this fear.

Why are we so scared that our neighboring church down the road might have success? Are we not all trying to grow the kingdom of God?

Local television time is not expensive! It has been proven many times here. Get a camera and some good bible studies or fireside chat type format.

You don't have to have a huge church with awesome music and great production. Thousands have been won to Christ with a simple home bible study.

If I was a home missions pastor I would be begging for the use of TV.

:saycheese

DG,

You have obviously never lived in Louisiana where there are SO many churches that when you see one of those yellow "church" traffic signs you EXPECT to see a Oneness Apostolic Church that is being identified by the sign.

There is so much church hopping goes on in LA that it is a legitimate concern that would only be exacerbated by local programming.

I have no dog in the fight and no pony in the show so I will continue to reserve my opinions on "the issue". I just wanted to bring out that it is a problem when you have so many churches so close and their latest revival is usually someone else's recently lost members. :D

chosenbyone 09-20-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 246335)
the upc does have legs to stand on regarding t.v.
95% of t.v. goes against the word of God.(i will not dig through a trash can for a slice of cake).even are world today teaches that t.v. is not good for you.the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house.

I had just mentioned on another thread earlier how I tend to avoid controversy, but since I already stepped into that arena over on that thread, I decided to add my opinion on your aforementioned paragraph.

First let me share a little story with you. When I was a child, my cousin and I would sneak over to his grandmother's house to watch television, since like many conservatives there wasn't one in our household. That same cousin, who holds two master's degrees, never seemed to be able to find the balance needed to live in this world as a Christian once he had the liberty to make such decisions on his own.

That seemed to be the case with countless others when once they were given the options to have such devices in their homes, they didn't know how to incorporate them into their lives without causing some level of harm to their spiritual walk. We need to be able to teach our children moderation on so many things and the use of technological devices should be included in those discussions.

I do have a television in my home with a satellite connection, so that if I chose to watch a documentary, news or an airing special program of interest, I have the means to do so. I felt your comment about us Apostolic Christians who have televisions in our homes because we lacked the backbone to kick it out of our homes was really crossing the lines of civility. I do not or have I ever LOVED television.

It hasn't impacted my spiritual walk or my enjoyment of reading. I have remained an avid reader and I don't see that changing just because I have an additional electronic device sitting in the other room. I would agree with you that most of the programming on television is garbage; however, the Spirit of God controls the remote in my home and no one else.

Many blessings to you...

CC1 09-20-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 246361)
DG,

You have obviously never lived in Louisiana where there are SO many churches that when you see one of those yellow "church" traffic signs you EXPECT to see a Oneness Apostolic Church that is being identified by the sign.

There is so much church hopping goes on in LA that it is a legitimate concern that would only be exacerbated by local programming.

I have no dog in the fight and no pony in the show so I will continue to reserve my opinions on "the issue". I just wanted to bring out that it is a problem when you have so many churches so close and their latest revival is usually someone else's recently lost members. :D

If someone "hops" churches due to another churches TV advertising or program that is just sad. If you arrange your life or your religion around immaturity and stupidity like that you are never going to get beyond the baby stage.

CC1 09-20-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 246361)
DG,

You have obviously never lived in Louisiana where there are SO many churches that when you see one of those yellow "church" traffic signs you EXPECT to see a Oneness Apostolic Church that is being identified by the sign.

:D

Phil,

LOL!!! I know exactly what you mean. After living in La. I now feel funny riding my motorcycle around rural TN because there are almost no UPC churches or other Oneness churches in all of the little spots in the road. Here those churches are all Church of Christ. There must be a Church of Christ every 200 yards in TN.

I make it a point to look for Oneness churches and rarely find them here. In La. you can blink and by the time your eye opens again there is another one!


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