Not in those exact words, but the disdain runs like a river when baptism is mentioned, sometimes.

"Sacremental regenerationalists" is a phrase DA uses a lot.

I have no real interest in digging up everybody's posts, I have just been around here for about a year now, and have seen enough.

I do not agree there is any disdain for baptism. I feel that it is one of the most important things there is in life. Though I do not totally agree with everyones opinion on this I do agree that baptism is muy importante.

I do believe baptism should be administered in Jesus name, but I have no problem with adding F,S and HG to it. That way it covers what Jesus said and fulfills what Acts to confirms.

FAL, I agree - IF the work of the cross could be disqualified over a technicality I am quite sure none of us actually qualify.

Somewhere our doctrine has an impurity, but yet I rest in the assurance of Christ's work on the cross to make me perfect.

This would not be me.

Christian Baptism is the new believer's rite of passage of sorts. It is something to be heralded to the world.

You should be OK there Kut ! Some trust in their "rightness"...I'll trust in the cross and Jesus rightousness, imputed to me.

Wer had this conversation some time back on baptism and does it have to be done EXACTLY has we think we see in scripture.

You don't have to be much of a historical student of time of Christ or our Jewish roots to know that those that are taken under the water by the hands of another have not been baptized the way it was in done in the time of the apostles.

History will confirm that the early church baptism's , which were nothing new to the Jewish converts, were merely an extension of the Jewish Mikvah.

It is accepted among Hewbraic scholars that the earliset converst were baptized naked. They immersed themselves, no one could touch the person immersing themselves.

There's lots more but it's just easier to say it's my way or the hi way (to hell)

Yes Kutless..I think "we" are much more concerned with doctrinal purity than God is.

OK boys ...let the stones fly.

I surely hope you meant that TIC

If someone prays to Allah, does "I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being referred to" still work?

Or how about if Noah used something other than what God told him to build an ark, does God say "Im sure he meant well" and wink at his disobedience?

Well stated. We are to follow in Christ's footsteps, and His footsteps were prefigured in the OT typology. There are lots of examples and reasons given to go through the waters of baptism, but how well we perform is no grounds for boasting because it is through the blood that we have redemption and forgiveness of sins.

That it is more important, Sam, does NOT mean what words were spoken have no importance whatsoever...

One might argue the heart is more important than the kidneys, but unless you want to spend your life on Dialysis or get a transplant, you'd still see the importance of the kidneys too, no matter how more important the heart is

My question is...does out faith and practices come from the bible or do they come from a hybrid man made version?