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Elder:

How would you compare and contrast the two? What would be the significant differences in these two organizations?

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I didn't know that AMC was an organization - is it ???

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I get the point. LOL. :) I still think care needs to be taken.

if we're not careful we become guilty of doing the same things we judge others of doing and our attitudes and spirits get bent out of shape. Jesus' attitude and His instruction to His disciples was to "let them be".

The fact is that it hurts to see division take place. Sometimes it's a necessary hurt though. Other times it's simply a result of people getting caught up in politics and "issues".

We can still be "one" in the most important purpose of all which is to reach the lost with the Gospel and see lives transformed and saved from hell.

Pray about it. Lift your eyes from what you can see from the "natural viewpoint". Try to look at everything from God's point of view. If you do, you'll see little justification for judgmentalism and accusation.

God puts up with all of us. He loves us and is patient and merciful with us all, and like I say He's most concerned with souls being saved.

We get caught up in issues of pride and competition, carnal reasoning, and it sucks the spirit and life right out of us and then we wonder why there's so much barren-ness and so much unspirituality in our OWN ranks.

Pray for your brothers -- even those who have chosen to walk a different path. Let them know you love them and that you wish them the best. God will bless you for that and it will reap a good harvest.

It doesn't matter what others do. We're responsible for ourselves and no matter how others act we have a responsibility to keep our own attitudes and spirits right and to react in a right spirit, with kindness, God's love, self control and temperance which are ..... after all ....... the fruit of the Spirit.

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If it's not, it's doing a great imitation.


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Felicity,

Has the Tulsa Worldwide Holiness Movement Incorporated put any twists in you and TB's move back to the UPC?

Is the WWPF a viable alternative to the UPC for you?

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LOL!!! I think it is somewhat as how the great Will Rogers once said " I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat".

The AMF is organized but as loosely as possible. To pick a leader they all line up at one end of the sanctuary and run for the door. The slowest one "gets" to be the leader for the next year.:happydance

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Felicity...ok, I get it...I understand your position. I misunderstood...I thought we were trying to understand yours AND my position...


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I totally understand your position. I've been on both sides of the fence. I have a perspective that many don't have and I think it might give me bit of an edge. Perhaps I'm deluded about that though. LOL.

I understand the unhappiness and disappointment of what has happened. I don't judge you for feeling as you do. Just trying to lend some perspective and giving my 2 cents worth. :)

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LOL. You're a nut. ;) :)

I always enjoy reading your comments and perspective.

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LOL!!! I thought you would appreciate that.

BTW - Has the WWPF affected Canada much? Are there many churches conervative enough there for the pastors to leave the UPC and join the WWPF?