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Sister Alvear 08-17-2008 09:04 AM

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thank you..

OnenessWoman 08-17-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 567297)
A dying person asks to be baptized however the doctors will not give permission...the person is full of bedsores in many places of the body???

What do you think the preacher should do?

Well, ultimately, it would be the bapitism candidate's decision -- not the doctors. The baptism candidate should know WHY the doctor is forbidding it and then make a decision of whether to proceed or not....and then the preacher can cover it all with prayer and fasting.

OnenessWoman 08-17-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 567336)
So this is what we did...please do not find fault all I could do was this and tell her if she gets better and the hospital will let us we will ask if they will let our church pay an ambulance to bring her to the church for us to baptize her...however this is all I could do today...



Sis. A, you are doing what you can in loving and praying for this woman. How could anyone find fault with that?

A_PoMo 08-17-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 567297)
A dying person asks to be baptized however the doctors will not give permission...the person is full of bedsores in many places of the body???

What do you think the preacher should do?

Just sprinkle some water on their forehead and call it good. The H2O part of baptism is purely symbolic anyway, the water doesn't wash away sin. The water is symbolic of a spiritual washing.

ILG 08-17-2008 11:05 AM

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I think this is a case for a different type of baptism. God looks at the heart. I am a believer that immersion is biblical but I don't think God is going to say "You didn't get immersed! No way I can let you in. You should have gone through the pain and suffering, bedsores and all!" God is compassionate and looks at the desires and intentions. My belief.

ILG 08-17-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 567345)
I am weeping as I post...under that sheet she is almost one solid sore...her stomach, her back and other parts of her body. She was so thankful we brought her some diapers...yet her smile was so beautiful...

I really donīt know how the Lord looks at things like that...wetryed to rub water on her where we could and put her in the hands of a merciful God...

Sis A.,

I just saw the pictures. My respect and opinion of you has just gone up! :) That is very touching!

Sister Alvear 08-17-2008 11:10 AM

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Just getting past the guards, the supervisors and all is a great feat in a Catholic hospital that is state run and a place where believers are NOT welcome.
At 3 our time the nurse is going to let me slip in and visit her...thank God for FRIENDS...

Sister Alvear 08-17-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 567720)
Sis A.,

I just saw the pictures. My respect and opinion of you has just gone up! :) That is very touching!

Just doing the best I can under very difficult circumstances.
I wept last night praying for her and told God I was so thankful HE was the judge and not some people that I know that have no mercy.

OneAccord 08-17-2008 11:14 AM

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I'm not there with you, Sis Alvear, so I won't presume to decide what to do in that case. But I will say this: Your dedication to the Lord leads me to conclude you did what the Lord led you to do. And, I feel safe in saying that I doubt very seriously that you would ever do anything without consulting the Lord. And, with that, I believe you did exactly as the Lord led you. You and your family are exceptional people. Your decision, and the sisters soul, are safely in the Good Hands of the Lord.

Sassy 08-17-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 567372)
Very touching!

I am sure that there are a few reading this thread thinking there is no hope for this woman, but these are the same ones to send someone to hell for showing any skin above the knee or elbows as well......
Thankfully these men are VERY small next to God Himself.

hmm...not a very nice remark at all....
:naughty


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