Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 584196)

Don't have to refute God's Word ... it is what it is ... not what you think it says.

Your baptismal regenerationist interpretation is not the only plausible one.

Still waiting to know why you quoted it. What does it mean to you, E.D.?

Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 584197)

Frenzy? Is that what all this stuff on the floor is from?

Hand me the dust pan, I'll clean it up again....

Ron

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 584205)

To me, it means just what it says.

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 584207)

I don't get it.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 583959)

Sir ... if l handed you a Spanish bible would you read it?

I can't teach your remission is different from forgiveness doctrine using a Spanish bible ... which I do use ... EVEN IF I TRIED TO ....

as for your attempt to dismiss the ability of thousands of bible students who have studied basic Greek terms and the unanimous consensus of theologians ... both expert and amateur ... including David Bernard and Daniel Segraves .... on a basic theological concept/word and it's meaning ...

shows your contempt and/or negligence for interpreting and rightly dividing the Word without bias ... and ultimately TRUTH, IMO.

Simply takes a Greek/English dictionary for this simple exercise, Elder ... not years of linguistic study.

I wonder if I can throw out this desperate barb next time you try to speak authoritatively about the Greek in regards to such words as kouros?

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 584263)

Just as I thought all of this the Greek and Hebrew says thus and thus and speak as though they are an authority and the man couldn't order lamb in a Greek resturant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What does the Spanish Bible have to do with anything????
:whistle:whistle:whistle

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 584265)

Spanish ... a whole lot ...

It doesn't use the word remission ... just forgiveness/pardon in all instances ....

I would not be able to prove that sins are remitted at baptism using the texts your use from KJV. This would apply in the Greek too ... see my earlier posts in this thread for Spanish verses.

Using your logic Bernard, Segraves or any other sound theologian that are not fluent in said language would be able to do so either ... yet they all come to the same conclusion ... hmmm.

I'm sure Elder Bernard could order lamb in Korean.

Will archive this lame cop-out when you post words in Greek.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 584269)

I had a public debate with 2 Yahweh guys and here they was sending everyone to Hell that do not pronounce the name in ancient Hebrewand these 2 Yahoos could not order a bagel in a Jewish deli. It just tires me all this Greek this and that when in truth they just quote someone who also may not read or speak Greek.