Originally Posted by Ishi (Post 875016)

Ladies and Gentlemen of AFF,

I am the man this good Brother is speaking of.

He and I did have a sharp disageement over something he said that I felt was totally false.

I demanded an open apology.

He refused.

In an effort to influence him to do what I ask, I did pressure him; but, I never threatened to hurt him in anyway.

He called me a liar; and, I told him 'he would get a chance to call me a liar to my face'.

That was the jest of it.

My last pm to him reveal that "I meant none of what was said".
It was a big joke.

I thought we had it settled...I guess not.

I'm shocked he is still upset about it all these months later.

I offer my apologies to him; and, to all of you here.

If someone could help me get in contact with him, I would like to apolgize on the phone.

Again, it was a big joke to me....a game...

I'm shocked and ashamed that what I did (tic) has caused him so much anguish.

respectfully,

jp

Originally Posted by Ishi (Post 875016)

Ladies and Gentlemen of AFF,

I am the man this good Brother is speaking of.

...
I'm shocked he is still upset about it all these months later.

I offer my apologies to him; and, to all of you here.

If someone could help me get in contact with him, I would like to apolgize on the phone.

Again, it was a big joke to me....a game...

I'm shocked and ashamed that what I did (tic) has caused him so much anguish.

respectfully,

jp

Originally Posted by Brother David (Post 875020)

To help you out a little bit here, jp, the posts you refer to were made in July of '09 - "several months ago."

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 875018)

Threatening someone and then saying it was a joke to get outa it... and then asking how to get in contact with the person who you just threatened... Maybe your just not thinking things through lol.

What it sounds like to me is that you threatened him to try and get him to comply. If you were doing the threatening as a joke to just see what he would do that is one thing. But you pretty much just said it was to pressure him into doing what ya wanted. Then when things still didn't work out for you, you then called it a joke. A joke is a much different thing than what you did. When you made those threats it doesn't sound like you were trying to get a laugh out of the situation...

The real question we need answered to help determine if it was a joke or not, what would you have done if your joking threats got him to apologize?

Originally Posted by Ishi (Post 875024)

Thank you for pointing that out to me.

I was aware of it; but, I JUST found out about; and, wanted to try to 'fix' this thing.

Thank you again,

jp

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 875018)

Threatening someone and then saying it was a joke to get outa it... and then asking how to get in contact with the person who you just threatened... Maybe your just not thinking things through lol.

What it sounds like to me is that you threatened him to try and get him to comply. If you were doing the threatening as a joke to just see what he would do that is one thing. But you pretty much just said it was to pressure him into doing what ya wanted. Then when things still didn't work out for you, you then called it a joke. A joke is a much different thing than what you did. When you made those threats it doesn't sound like you were trying to get a laugh out of the situation...

The real question we need answered to help determine if it was a joke or not, what would you have done if your joking threats got him to apologize?

Originally Posted by Brother David (Post 875029)

NP. Everybody already knows that you and that CAF forum are all a bunch of "trouble makers!" http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ons/icon10.gif

j/k ... I've got at least a couple of good friends who post there and several folks that I admire. We'll fight like cats and dogs if the mood is right, but they're still good men.

I'm sure 1Cor has figured out the nuances of the exchange by now and has moved on. I hope.

Originally Posted by Ishi (Post 875030)

Sorry, I didn't see the last part of your post.

Let me answer it now.

First of all, there were NO THREATS to him.

The thing that got him was when he called me a liar...I told him he would get the chance to call me a liar to my face.

At the time, I didn't know he was from Ca.

I thought he was from St. Louis.

Further, I didn't know I was dealing with a young man.

I thought he was a Pastor.

I didn't know him; nor, anyone I knew...knew him.

One might read into this anything he would like.

This is one man's feeble attempt to 'right a wrong' done to a brother.

That's all I want to do.

If I am refused that opportunity here, I will seek out other ways.

Please understand. I am not trying to hurt anyone.

All I want to do is 'apologize'.

I am not putting any blame on this young man.

I take it all; but I deny threating him with harm.

Pressed him???...yes.

For that, was wrong.

jp