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DAII 04-05-2010 01:21 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 894702)
that definitely is NOT what I meant. lol

I think the believing Jews, once they understood the position of the law, were still very zealous for the law but under a new light.

A great visual nonetheless ....:ursofunny

Praise God for the Council of Jerusalem!!!!

Sam 04-05-2010 04:25 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 894622)
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Other pressing questions for the impartation services is "Will the Holy Spirit show up among those that don't practice practical holiness as defined by Bernard?" and if they are Spirit-filled .... why haven't they been led to all truth?

ALL Truth?
We have picked out a couple of personal doctrines that we consider to be ALL truth. These would be:
1. Oneness of the Godhead
2. Baptism in Jesus' Name
3. Holiness/Dress Code

My personal opinion on why God doesn't show ALL truth to those who have been baptized in the Spirit (including Catholic Charismatics) is that those three things I've listed there are not really important to God.

1. Oneness? what's that? We Oneness folks don't even agree among ourselves on what Oneness is. Look at the endless, confusing dialogues on this site. The Catholic and Protestant and Charismatic folks don't really believe in many gods. They believe there is one God who has come to us in the person of Jesus and who lives in us as the Holy Spirit. That, in my opinion, is the Bible definition of God. All our silly theological terms like "persons" or "substance" or "mighty God in Christ" or "triune" are just our silly little word games.

2. Baptism in Jesus' name? Who authorized baptism in Matthew 28? Jesus did and whenever we baptize whether by sprinkling, pouring, immersing or whatever we are doing it because He authorized us to do it so we are doing it in His name (by His authority) whether we vocalize His name in English or not.

3. Holiness/Dress code. That's not even worth time to write about. God's not in our dress code and cookie cutter Christian theology.

That's my two cents worth.

Looking our way? DKB is no more born again nor in the Kingdom than those others who will be attending (whatever church/organization/denomination) they come from.

Sam 04-05-2010 04:28 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 894773)

...DKB is no more born again nor in the Kingdom than those others who will be attending (whatever church/organization/denomination) they come from.

We have roped off a tiny portion of the Body of Christ and called that little group THE TRUE CHURCH and have considered all outside our little group to be lost and not in THE TRUTH.

The people gathering there at ORU are a good representation of God's Church.

again, my opinion

BeenThinkin 04-05-2010 04:33 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 894773)
ALL Truth?
We have picked out a couple of personal doctrines that we consider to be ALL truth. These would be:
1. Oneness of the Godhead
2. Baptism in Jesus' Name
3. Holiness/Dress Code

My personal opinion on why God doesn't show ALL truth to those who have been baptized in the Spirit (including Catholic Charismatics) is that those three things I've listed there are not really important to God.

1. Oneness? what's that? We Oneness folks don't even agree among ourselves on what Oneness is. Look at the endless, confusing dialogues on this site. The Catholic and Protestant and Charismatic folks don't really believe in many gods. They believe there is one God who has come to us in the person of Jesus and who lives in us as the Holy Spirit. That, in my opinion, is the Bible definition of God. All our silly theological terms like "persons" or "substance" or "mighty God in Christ" or "triune" are just our silly little word games.

2. Baptism in Jesus' name? Who authorized baptism in Matthew 28? Jesus did and whenever we baptize whether by sprinkling, pouring, immersing or whatever we are doing it because He authorized us to do it so we are doing it in His name (by His authority) whether we vocalize His name in English or not.

3. Holiness/Dress code. That's not even worth time to write about. God's not in our dress code and cookie cutter Christian theology.

That's my two cents worth.

Looking our way? DKB is no more born again nor in the Kingdom than those others who will be attending (whatever church/organization/denomination) they come from.

Well said! :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

BeenThinkin

Hoovie 04-05-2010 04:55 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 894622)
David K. Bernard, the UPCI's new superintendent, will be presenting a session @ Oral Roberts University's "Empowered 21", on 4/9 @ 2 pm.

His topic is the "Future of Oneness Pentecostalism"
http://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/2/...pub/index.html (see page 6)


About Empowered:



I fully expect DKB's notes to come from his chapter in The future of Pentecostalism in the United States By Eric Patterson, Edmund John Rybarczyk

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZOS...0david&f=false

I am curious how many will attend this split-session (one of 190) and whether it will be the springboard to the greatest end-time Apostlic revival, Bernard is predicting ...

as he shared in a recent Youth Division interview: " I believe we are entering the greatest time of apostolic revival the world has ever known." (source: http://insideout.pentecostalyouth.or...david-bernard/) :thumbsup

It also appears he will sit in on a panel discussion on the 10th with his trinitarian peers.

Other pressing questions for the impartation services is "Will the Holy Spirit show up among those that don't practice practical holiness as defined by Bernard?" and if they are Spirit-filled .... why haven't they been led to all truth?

I am very happy to see this happen.

What makes you think the nine others on the panel are Trinitarian?

bishoph 04-05-2010 10:52 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 894627)
Was he invited as a guest of honor?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the JCM Reunion since I hear that the WPF will be having a meeting in the same hotel on the same dates ....

I guess that works out well for TLC .... he can attend both meetings?

Just for the record.....the "other" meeting is not a WPF meeting. (No association at all) It is a long standing Apostolic Ministers Conference (AMC) that has been held at the same place for quite a few years.

StillStanding 04-05-2010 11:02 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 894883)
Just for the record.....the "other" meeting is not a WPF meeting. (No association at all) It is a long standing Apostolic Ministers Conference (AMC) that has been held at the same place for quite a few years.

It is my understanding that several WPF preachers will be in attendance. In fact, one of the main speakers is a top WPF official. I wouldn't say "no association at all".

Quite a few years? Haven't they been having meetings for under ten years?

Were you speaking evangelastically? :D

CC1 04-05-2010 11:14 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 894684)
Trinitarian...well I assume he gave himself permission to preach/teach at a non UPC church

ROFL!!!!!

Neck 04-05-2010 11:33 PM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 894622)
David K. Bernard, the UPCI's new superintendent, will be presenting a session @ Oral Roberts University's "Empowered 21", on 4/9 @ 2 pm.

His topic is the "Future of Oneness Pentecostalism"
http://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/2/...pub/index.html (see page 6)


About Empowered:



I fully expect DKB's notes to come from his chapter in The future of Pentecostalism in the United States By Eric Patterson, Edmund John Rybarczyk

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZOS...0david&f=false

I am curious how many will attend this split-session (one of 190) and whether it will be the springboard to the greatest end-time Apostlic revival, Bernard is predicting ...

as he shared in a recent Youth Division interview: " I believe we are entering the greatest time of apostolic revival the world has ever known." (source: http://insideout.pentecostalyouth.or...david-bernard/) :thumbsup

It also appears he will sit in on a panel discussion on the 10th with his trinitarian peers.

Other pressing questions for the impartation services is "Will the Holy Spirit show up among those that don't practice practical holiness as defined by Bernard?" and if they are Spirit-filled .... why haven't they been led to all

truth?

I wonder if it will end with an alter call?

bishoph 04-06-2010 01:41 AM

Re: ORU Looking our Way? Bernard to Present 4/9
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 894885)
It is my understanding that several WPF preachers will be in attendance. In fact, one of the main speakers is a top WPF official. I wouldn't say "no association at all".

Quite a few years? Haven't they been having meetings for under ten years?

Were you speaking evangelastically? :D

I see your smiley and raise you one:D:) IMHO just because some members of the WPF may attend or may be a speaker does not create an association (i.e. it was intimated that the meeting was a WPF event) any more than UPCI men who will/may attend would make it a UPCI meeting. In fact, as I understand it, this is why the meeting was called AMC, so as not to "associate" it with any one org/group.

As to the "quite a few years" comment, I think that any meeting that has been on going for 10 years or more would IMHO fit into the "quite a few" category.


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