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RandyWayne 04-17-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1058672)
I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.

I do actually agree with this for the most part. However I DO believe that there needs to be a board in place who monitor all financial matters and are made aware of where every offering cent goes. There should never be a situation where the pastor has a combination of full say in money AND feels like he can keep the records secret.

Sister Alvear 04-17-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1058674)
I do actually agree with this for the most part. However I DO believe that there needs to be a board in place who monitor all financial matters and are made aware of where every offering cent goes. There should never be a situation where the pastor has a combination of full say in money AND feels like he can keep the records secret.

I fully agree with this...our churches in Brazil keep records and give reports...if we have nothing to hide I don't think we will mind giving reports and working together.

Sister Alvear 04-17-2011 12:56 PM

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I have found out over the years working here the pastors that did not want to be open and give reports usually had something to hide...

AncientPaths 04-17-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I do actually agree with this for the most part. However I DO believe that there needs to be a board in place who monitor all financial matters and are made aware of where every offering cent goes. There should never be a situation where the pastor has a combination of full say in money AND feels like he can keep the records secret.

Ditto.

Praxeas 04-17-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1058672)
I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.

The problem is those men of God are not there in that church to witness what is going on. So single leaders having absolute power is a reciple for abuse

kclee4jc 04-18-2011 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1058720)
The problem is those men of God are not there in that church to witness what is going on. So single leaders having absolute power is a reciple for abuse

I understand your point here, i really do. However, i see great potential for error when someone from the congregation has some sort of control over the pastor. How is he then free to teach or preach what he feels led to? If he goes into a church where those on the board do not pay tithes and he begins teaching on tithing, it would be easy for the board to move to dismiss him because his teaching is offensive to them.

egalejiya 04-18-2011 06:40 AM

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The doctrine of the Trinity is false.

AncientPaths 04-18-2011 07:28 AM

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The doctrine of the Trinity is false.

I find your random comment intriguing. Please - tell me more.

Timmy 04-18-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AncientPaths (Post 1058782)
I find your random comment intriguing. Please - tell me more.

Oh, it's all explained in the links. :heeheehee

Digging4Truth 04-18-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1058812)
Oh, it's all explained in the links. :heeheehee

Yep. Pretty much.


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