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ILG 05-14-2007 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 112608)
I know that many people can't understand someone stating they were asexual, because most people have a strong sexual drive. I never had that drive even before I became sick. It never was something I needed or for that matter wanted in my life.

I found being celibate was really what suited my life more than having a sexual relationship. I did walk away from God for three years for a homosexual relationship, which was how I contracted HIV. I hated sex during that relationship and actually ended up having my own bedroom, because I had issues with intimacy. That didn't spare me from contracted HIV, which actually created even more of an aversion toward sex.

I don't believe I read anything other than what was written when you used the word "creeped" out. I don't even think of sex, but I wouldn't use creeped out in a discussion regarding sexual sins.

I guess that's why we all are created so unique so that we can learn from each other with respect. I wasn't hurt earlier by any comments made on this thread. Between trying to keep up with this thread and two people sending PMs and with not feeling very well, I started having a lot of anxiety and near the end my head was just swimming.

I'm feeling better after I was able to lie down for awhile and I wanted to make sure you were alright. I didn't mean to upset you earlier and I hope you have a good evening.

chosen

Good morning CBO. I am fine. Thanks for asking. I would use the words 'creeped out' carefully. It is not something I said lightly. Sometimes I will use those types of words to bridge gaps...those who are and have been involved in sexual sins need to understand that there is a healthy aversion to those things in people that should exist. I understand why someone who has been involved in sexual sins may bristle at that terminology but it is not personal. I was thinking about this last night in regards to a woman who may have adultery in her past. If her pastor refused to be alone with her, she may feel insulted and take it personally. A woman who does not have this issue would better understand when the pastor wouldn't be alone with her that that is his boundaries for the pastorate. One person may personalize what isn't personal based on prior experiences. I think that is what happened when I said "creeped out by sexual sins". You may disagree with me using the terminology and I am okay with the thought that you don't want to use that terminology personally, but I think that there are some words that can be reserved for certain things and that it should be okay as long as it is not used in a personal barb.

ILG 05-14-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 112634)
I was always disgusted after an act. Is that similar to being creeped out, as you put it?

Yes, I think so.

Chan 05-14-2007 03:24 PM

Okay, I read the title of this thread and it suggests that the question is whether one is born gay or whether being gay is a call from God. I would answer "neither one." No one is born with a particular sexual/romantic attraction but, instead, it develops during childhood. Also, God doesn't call different people to have different attractions but, instead, He created male and female and designed mating (the whole realm of sexual/romantic attraction and behavior) to be between male and female solely in the context of opposite-sex marriage.

Homosexual attraction is contrary to God's created design for male and female. As such, it is "unnatural" and "abnormal" and, thus, is something for God to heal since it is caused and not chosen. What one does with this unnatural attraction is entirely a choice and the sin of homosexuality is one wherein one chooses to embrace and/or act on the unnatural attraction.

It's important to separtate the caused attraction from the chosen sin because how one deals with each is necessarily different. The attraction, because it is caused, is not something that can be changed through choice but, instead, is something that has to be changed through healing. The sin (embracing and/or acting on the attraction) must be repented of and forsaken, and is something over which one must gain and maintain victory.


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