Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483879)

go back and read the entire quote. the context of the 100 years referenced our current relationship with German and Japan. He named them.

and YES it was about the nieve position of Obama and Clinton.

thank you. sometimes I am clever....

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483638)

Here is what I know. he wants to raise my taxes,

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483879)

go back and read the entire quote. the context of the 100 years referenced our current relationship with German and Japan. He named them.

and YES it was about the nieve position of Obama and Clinton.

thank you. sometimes I am clever....

Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483881)

Hey, like most Americans, I don't know diddly about all this policy and morality stuff. I'm going to vote for Obama cuz he's thin and handsome and looks good in a suit and he makes me feel good, like a good preacher. Plus I think McCain looks old and his wife is way too rich and pretty for her age. God bless America! :tic

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483896)

If you don't mind me asking, how much do you make? He has some rather nice tax cuts for the middle class in his plan. If you as an individual make over $100,000 a year, you might not see any tax cuts. If you make over $200,000 a year, you'll most likely see a tax increase.



Advisors aren't going to allow him to loose Iraq. In fact, he'll listen to a number of the advisors Bush ignored leading up to the war. Don't forget we're spending some ungodly amount like 10 BILLION in Iraq every month.



You're already funding the Iraqi Ministry of Health and the Iraqi national health care system. Not to mention, Obama's not proposing "nationalizing health care"...he wants to subsidize insurance.



Opinions are like feet. We all have a couple...and they normaly stink.

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483665)

Ding, ding, ding!!!! We have a winner. Ferd's post says it all.

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 483904)

You have been gone too long... But still.... :boxing Do I have to smack you upside the head too! :reaction

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483906)

Ferd's post was nothing but an opinion.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483699)

not picking on ya buddy, as a matter of fact i just watched a coming home parade for one of our gurard units, great that they are home, but the fight must be fought, the majority of people i know want the job to be done, then we are out, by the way, we are still in germany, japan and korea, what is that now 60 yrs, dt

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483896)

If you don't mind me asking, how much do you make? He has some rather nice tax cuts for the middle class in his plan. If you as an individual make over $100,000 a year, you might not see any tax cuts. If you make over $200,000 a year, you'll most likely see a tax increase.



Advisors aren't going to allow him to loose Iraq. In fact, he'll listen to a number of the advisors Bush ignored leading up to the war. Don't forget we're spending some ungodly amount like 10 BILLION in Iraq every month.



You're already funding the Iraqi Ministry of Health and the Iraqi national health care system. Not to mention, Obama's not proposing "nationalizing health care"...he wants to subsidize insurance.



Opinions are like feet. We all have a couple...and they normaly stink.

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 483710)

And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483711)

Folks, we had issues in Germany until the 1950's. we still have bases both there and in Japan 60 years later.


I want a stable ally in the middle east where we can have bases of operations. just like we do in Europe and the far east.

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 483898)

"I have no Plan B. ... I cannot give you a good alternative because if I had a good alternative, maybe we could consider it now. Every alternative that I know of that is keyed to a date for withdrawal, which that would dictate, is chaos in the region. And genocide."

— In an interview with The New York Times, April 14, 2007

I'm just saying that he was very clear about his stance on a timetable...until he came up with one of his own. A timetable is either naive and foolish or it's not.

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 483904)

You have been gone too long... But still.... :boxing Do I have to smack you upside the head too! :reaction

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483905)

hmm this obsession with how much money people make rings familiar, lol

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483923)

i do mind you asking.

Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483931)

No head smacking allowed...Diz does that to me just fine! Btw: I did say TIC at the end of that thing didn't I? :)

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483925)

Iraqis need to govern themselves. Sadly, I don't see a Democracy in Iraq. I think we'll see something more akin to a coalition government where a specific religious faction keeps control.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483935)

some things are just nunyo, nunyobidness, lol

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483906)

Ferd's post was nothing but an opinion.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 483935)

some things are just nunyo, nunyobidness, lol

Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483803)

If we can survive 8 yrs of Clinton followed by 8 yrs of Bush we can survive Obama or McCain. All the drama is melodramatic.

Originally Posted by StMark (Post 483805)

not you directly no, in general, yes. I'm not a republican. I'm a democrat, but they (the majority of the Dems) are soooo far to the right, they are equal to marxist communist! They're views are just outrageous! Now, Ferd and i will disagree, but I think SOMETHING has got to be done about America's health care. He thinks it's fine the way it is. Since the Republicans have been in office, it has almost taken out middle class under. gas prcies, housing, taxes are still high, but I don't think the Dems plan is going to work either.
But all the financial woes aside, there is something else at play here... I believe this is all a set up of the one world government

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483810)

Not fine as it is, I just dont think tossing the baby out with the bathwater is smart.

nationalizing healthcare is no answer to what ails us.

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 483974)

Can you explain how Obama would "nationalize health care"?

Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483881)

Hey, like most Americans, I don't know diddly about all this policy and morality stuff. I'm going to vote for Obama cuz he's thin and handsome and looks good in a suit and he makes me feel good, like a good preacher. Plus I think McCain looks old and his wife is way too rich and pretty for her age. God bless America! :tic

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483984)

can you explain "multiple personality disorder"?

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 483978)

How would one nationalize health care?
Even that isn't what is done in Canada.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483923)

i do mind you asking.

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 483936)

Yea but I purposfully ignored it LOL Dizzy!!!! GIT over here!!!:happydance:happydance

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483989)

I am reminded of a famous Shakeperian quote.

"A rose by any other name smells so sweet..."

in Homage to TheMrs. William himself penned that line, and I didnt quote 30% of the article

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483984)

can you explain "multiple personality disorder"?

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 483984)

can you explain "multiple personality disorder"?

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 483993)

Can you explain how one would nationalize health care?

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 484001)

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I’m schizophrenic
And so am I

:lol

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 484002)

Ron, who controls healthcare in Canada?

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 484017)

That doesn't explain how one nationalizes Health care.

How do you do it?

We have private clinics & a lot of the Hospitals are owned by private entities such as The Sisters of Providence.

There are Doctors in Private Practice & Surgeons & Specialist in private practice.

There is even a new hostpital being built by the private sector to be run by the private sector in Abbotsford about 45 miles from me.

Nationalization?

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 484026)

I’ve read the entire thread and I realized something that’s so glaringly obvious I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned. We’ve mentioned how we need to pray for our country, and that’s very true. But…what about praying for these candidates? Sure, both of them may have different positions and each of us might prefer one over the other. But these are the guys, like it or not. We need to pray that God guide them and give them the wisdom to lead our country. Right now they’re formulating policies and choosing advisors and cabinet members. They both need to choose wisely. These men need our prayers.