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Cindy 05-29-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 475111)
In the same context he praises Bush and says he still respects him. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Bush supported the current governor of Texas for re-election instead of his mom who was running as an independent? Just a thought.

I know right, and that I do have a problem with, our current Governor that is. I will be so happy when he is out of office. I won't tell you what he reminds me of.

Grasshopper 05-29-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 475986)
It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?

First this books been in the works for a while and the Administration has known about how it might be somewhat critical...of course...they didn't know how critical.

Bro...imagine with me that you're in the writer's shoes. When would you want to release your book if you knew about so much corruption? Would you really wait until after an election where a man might win who will perpetuate such policies? Imagine releasing a book a month after that man won. Bro...as a voter who wants to be informed, I'd wonder why you waited until after the election to tell us the truth about these guys. If you're going to out the crooks you owe it to the America people to out them before we have the chance of choosing them again.

Grasshopper 05-29-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 475688)
Did you want someone that "wasn't" loyal to work for the Administration they served?

This isn't a football game...this isn't about being true to your team or your school.
Public servants don't serve any Administration....they serve the American people. Their loyalty is owed to the American people. If you were President you wouldn't want me working for you...because if you deceived the American people...I would out you.

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God will have a church regardless of Welfare, SS, government, your neighbor, etc. It doesn't make any difference to me.
Sounds good on paper....but if they trashed SS and the elderly fell into absolute poverty many could suffer and without Medicare to help them with health conditions...they could die. That makes a difference to me.

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I'm praying for my officials as the Bible instructs and voting so I don't look foolish if I gripe about what I don't like. :D
LOL

I'm praying too...praying that God reveal corruption and protect us all. ;)

Pressing-On 05-29-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper (Post 476571)
This isn't a football game...this isn't about being true to your team or your school.
Public servants don't serve any Administration....they serve the American people. Their loyalty is owed to the American people. If you were President you wouldn't want me working for you...because if you deceived the American people...I would out you.

I agree. I just don't think with all I've read that it is what McClellan says it is, especially after I heard him, today, say that he liked Obama and that it is a possibility that he could vote for him.



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Sounds good on paper....but if they trashed SS and the elderly fell into absolute poverty many could suffer and without Medicare to help them with health conditions...they could die. That makes a difference to me.
Yes, it would be bad, but God is always present. We can't allow all of these things to frighten us. We need to do what is our responsibility and trust in the Lord.



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LOL

I'm praying too...praying that God reveal corruption and protect us all. ;)
Sure, that's a good prayer, but more than that and I am sure you do pray this - Lord, raise up some honorable people to govern our country.

Grasshopper 05-29-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 476578)
I agree. I just don't think with all I've read that it is what McClellan says it is, especially after I heard him, today, say that he liked Obama and that it is a possibility that he could vote for him.

If the corruption he writes about is real...do you think he's going to vote for a man who will perpetuate Bush's policies?

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Yes, it would be bad, but God is always present. We can't allow all of these things to frighten us. We need to do what is our responsibility and trust in the Lord.
I agree there.

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Sure, that's a good prayer, but more than that and I am sure you do pray this - Lord, raise up some honorable people to govern our country.
Why? They'd never get elected. lol

Pressing-On 05-29-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper (Post 476606)
If the corruption he writes about is real...do you think he's going to vote for a man who will perpetuate Bush's policies?

True, something just bugs me about his story and the timing, Chris. I'll have to see as it goes along.

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Why? They'd never get elected. lol
True! :toofunny

Pressing-On 05-30-2008 08:22 AM

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I totally agree with Kathleen Parkers take on Scott. Totally agree!

(excerpt)

Revenge of the Nerd


Few can read those words and not feel some empathy for McClellan -- the picked-on boy who just wanted to be one of the cool guys. With few friends and no respect from peers, it seems entirely plausible that McClellan began plotting his revenge long ago. That behind his flaccid facade of befuddled calm was a focused mind marking time.

He would show the Bushies -- and he would show the world -- that Scott McClellan was nobody's chump.

Fast-forward to this week and McClellan is no longer a socially disabled, farcical figure bullied by the press, but king of the bully pulpit -- a triumph of lucidity. All he had to do was switch sides and say what the vast majority of Americans already believe.

Who's the fool now?

Unfortunately for the short, unhappy political life of Scott McClellan, the boy who squealed all the way home may be stuck with the title after all. Because no matter how sweet the revenge, on the playground, the snitch is trusted by no one.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/K...ge_of_the_nerd

Pressing-On 05-30-2008 09:29 AM

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Good article by Mike Gallagher.
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It seems that Mr. McClellan, bitter over being pushed out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., decided to write a "Mommie Dearest" - type tell-all that suggests that George W. Bush deceived everyone over the reasons for going to war in Iraq. His book is like a tall, cold glass of water for a news media stumbling around in the hot desert trying to find reasons to humiliate our commander-in-chief.

I often wonder if people like Scott McClellan ever stop and think about the pain and grief their money-grubbing antics cause the families of the brave men and women who are serving their country overseas. After all, if one accepts the premise that President Bush erred in going to war, then the mission of the United States military is absolutely in vain. Perhaps when McClellan cashes his hefty paychecks, he'll be like Ebeneezer Scrooge seeing the face of Marley on the door post and see the pained faces of men and women who simply cannot understand why a man like him would want to publish an anti-war book smack dab in the middle of a war.

Do you suppose Osama bin Laden will read McClellan's book? If he does, he's sure to enjoy it.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/M...s_voice?page=1

SOUNWORTHY 05-30-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper (Post 474346)
So even if this guy's telling the truth the Bush Administration should get a free pass on this? C'mon...this is far more corrupt than President Clinton trying to cover up an affair.

I hope you enjoy what's coming next!!

Grasshopper 05-30-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 476933)
I totally agree with Kathleen Parkers take on Scott. Totally agree!

(excerpt)

Revenge of the Nerd


Few can read those words and not feel some empathy for McClellan -- the picked-on boy who just wanted to be one of the cool guys. With few friends and no respect from peers, it seems entirely plausible that McClellan began plotting his revenge long ago. That behind his flaccid facade of befuddled calm was a focused mind marking time.

He would show the Bushies -- and he would show the world -- that Scott McClellan was nobody's chump.

Fast-forward to this week and McClellan is no longer a socially disabled, farcical figure bullied by the press, but king of the bully pulpit -- a triumph of lucidity. All he had to do was switch sides and say what the vast majority of Americans already believe.

Who's the fool now?

Unfortunately for the short, unhappy political life of Scott McClellan, the boy who squealed all the way home may be stuck with the title after all. Because no matter how sweet the revenge, on the playground, the snitch is trusted by no one.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/K...ge_of_the_nerd

Commentary and opinion aren't facts and real news. ;)

McClellan stated various dates, facts, details, conversations, and actions taken in his book. I don't care what they say about McClellan to destroy him personally...I want to know about those details. For example, the corrupt collusion between Rove and Libby. It doesn't matter at all what they say about McClellan if that took place, it demonstrats their corruption and contempt for the law. And when you get into the Iraq War...it doesn't matter what they say about McClellan, they have to demonstrate that they weren't cooking the facts to justify war. And I firmly believe they did and I think it's obvious to an honest soul.


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