Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393325)

Because Mike and Benencasa will not answer it. You however are a straight shooter and are not worried about what folks think, regarding what you believe(which I admire).

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1392640)

Mike, Benencasa, since you are involved and do not agree with what Peter seemingly said, please tell the viewers on AFF what Peter "REALLY" meant by this passage....

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?


Is this "really" telling us the Law(heavens), Jewish religion(elements) and the Jews(earth) are ready to dissolved by fire?





Well?

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393337)

Now Mikey and Benencasa(:dogpat)....it's time for us to have a little chat......

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1393518)

Sean, let me give you a tip, friend.

By your actions nobody is going to answer you if you continue to address them the way you do.

Then, when everybody that disagrees with you stops dialogue with you, you then feel that you have won when in fact you have just isolated yourself.

Lesson the insults and answer some questions and maybe those guys will engage in some real dialogue with you.

Otherwise...... continue the conversation with yourself.

Caryr on.

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1393518)

Sean, let me give you a tip, friend.

By your actions nobody is going to answer you if you continue to address them the way you do.

Then, when everybody that disagrees with you stops dialogue with you, you then feel that you have won when in fact you have just isolated yourself.

Lesson the insults and answer some questions and maybe those guys will engage in some real dialogue with you.

Otherwise...... continue the conversation with yourself.

Caryr on.

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393337)

Now Mikey and Benencasa(:dogpat)....it's time for us to have a little chat......

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1393518)

Sean, let me give you a tip, friend.

By your actions nobody is going to answer you if you continue to address them the way you do.

Then, when everybody that disagrees with you stops dialogue with you, you then feel that you have won when in fact you have just isolated yourself.

Lesson the insults and answer some questions and maybe those guys will engage in some real dialogue with you.

Otherwise...... continue the conversation with yourself.

Caryr on.

Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1393622)

:lol um, let's review

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393335)

Thanks Loren. These guys will not make their statement, then call me a liar when I bring out the big guns and brand them, using posts like Planet Preterist.

I respect your straight forwardness:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer (Post 1393334)

I will simply say what I do not believe it is. I do not believe it is speaking of the literal heavens and earth.

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393340)

I wonder why the secret code words boys?

I am glad Paul was not as afraid of the Jews, than Jesus and Peter were, because you have Jesus(35 Heaven(temple) and earth(Jews) shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.) and Peter using secret code words for "heaven and earth".....LOLOLOL


Secret Apostolic Codes...Hey, that will make an amazing book title!....LOL

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1393698)

Loren I agree with you. :heeheehee

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1393699)

Not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law until all be fulfilled?

Sean?

Where is the temple, priesthood, and animal sacrifices? Sean, every jot and tittle was supposed to be still in effect until all be completed? Sean, no one on the planet earth keeps the Law system as prescribed in the Hebrew Bible.

I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God's law will disappear until its purpose is achieved.

Sean, what happened?

Matthew 5:18 says not one of the smallest details of the law will disappear while heaven and earth is standing? But when heaven and earth disappear then some of those details go with it? Interesting?

So, Sean, why don't you ask your pastor, Brother Google to show you what that meaneth? :lol

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393754)

Now we are getting somewhere!

Cmon, teach us your interpretation of 2 Peter 3!

I want to see what you do in a congregational setting!

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393754)

Now we are getting somewhere!

Cmon, teach us your interpretation of 2 Peter 3!

I want to see what you do in a congregational setting!

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393755)

1 Cor 7:39(Paul told the Corinthians) The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.....


Romans 7:7 (Paul told Timothy)Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man......


1 Tim 1:8(Paul told Timothy) But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;....


1 John 3:4(John said) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.....


Eph 6:6 (Paul said)Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.




The Law melted away with fervent heat?......Very interesting!(I guess that invalidates these passages...hmmmm)

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1393777)

There are none so blind as they who just wont study...

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393757)

Mike...you too...teach it!

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1393777)

There are none so blind as they who just wont study...

Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1393781)

yes, but strangely, we are told that even study has a limit.

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer (Post 1393814)

Many people refuse to study for themselves, they are afraid. They would rather believe the things that have been set by tradition, vain deceit, and philosophy of men, then obey scripture and study themselves to show them selves approved unto God.

I for one refuse to get into a debate with someone that will not study things but would rather be obtuse and hold on to a set of traditions because it has been passed down from one generation to another.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1393824)

Bye Sean.

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393897)

I guess that means you will not leave a paper trail on AFF of your beliefs.

Likely because you are not solidly convinced you are teaching the truth.

If you were convinced you were teaching the truth, you would confidently show your beliefs, without fear of embarrassment of what others may think.

Maybe if you study preterism HARDER, you will be as confident as Febus someday, and just fearlessly post whatever you think!

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1393594)

Secret code for Mike/Benencasa...please open carefully....




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