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Evang.Benincasa 09-16-2015 10:35 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Since the beginning of creation, wording is a pretty good indicator of what Peter is speaking about and who he is referring to as the fathers. This was primarily referring to the advent of Messiah to the Judeans, and the scoffers who believe that Messiah wasn't coming. Yet, the would be the losers when everything would be destroyed around them.

Evang.Benincasa 09-16-2015 10:36 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391911)
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

Sean, Peter didn't include himself with the fathers.

Evang.Benincasa 09-16-2015 10:37 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391909)
Yep...context my boy!


Something you know nothing about.

Sean 09-16-2015 10:41 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1391913)
Since the beginning of creation, wording is a pretty good indicator of what Peter is speaking about and who he is referring to as the fathers. This was primarily referring to the advent of Messiah to the Judeans, and the scoffers who believe that Messiah wasn't coming. Yet, the would be the losers when everything would be destroyed around them.




Okay, lets do this again.....

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.





Is this speaking of father Adam or the Apostolic Fathers?

Sean 09-16-2015 10:43 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Sean 09-16-2015 10:44 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Sean 09-16-2015 10:45 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
These words...

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Evang.Benincasa 09-16-2015 10:46 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391919)
Okay, lets do this again.....

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.





Is this speaking of father Adam or the Apostolic Fathers?

Sean, can you read?

It is saying what the prophets and the apostles were SAYING that scoffers would come, and they would SAY where is the promise of His coming, For since our fathers fell asleep, all things remain the same as they always were. Sean, this is a quote from the prophets and the apostles concerning WHAT THE SCOFFERS SAID. Hello!

Sean 09-16-2015 10:46 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Spoke by the Apostles

Evang.Benincasa 09-16-2015 10:47 PM

Re: Scoffers on AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1391923)
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

What the apostles and prophets said the scoffers SAID!


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