Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 220028)

I agree. Why on purpose hurt someone else?
After all there is a time and a place EVEN to say we were WRONG or RIGHT about something.

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 220045)

Regardless whether someone believes outward dress, jewelry, makeup, etc. are holiness issues or not, the attitude and spirit of a person is a holiness issue. What this pastor and his wife did were symptoms of serious heart issues, and not the real problem. Sounds to me as if this was a couple who have been deeply hurt somewhere in their past and somewhat disillusioned, needing someone who can bring a balanced perspective into their lives.

Originally Posted by Brother Strange (Post 220046)

Right on target bro. Dave. Seems like Deb is doing a good job with you. :D

But wait! We can't remove the accent and total emphasis on the outside appearance. That would remove an awful lot of "preaching material." Might even have to preach the "cross" in dealing with these matters. Of all things!

When someone is demostrating such behavior, it is symtomatic of a spiritual need expressed with attention getting capers. Often it is hurt with not enough maturity to know what to do about it. When they see Jesus in the preaching of the cross, it is likely that they will be melted by the love of him who suffered far more hurt long before they suffered any hurt at all.

But leave it up to some of our Bretheren. They'll take care of it in short order. We have tossed far too many to the potter's heap with little to no potter's craftmanship, finding too much fault with the clay from the start.

It has been said, "Love covers a multitude of sin." Oh yeah? Since when?

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner (Post 220297)

Exactly!!! If the inside is all messed up, what's on the outside isn't near as important. We don't need to throw it all away, but we need to be sensitive and go the extra mile to help and be an encouragement to disillusioned ones and be there for them and be an example of what God can help you become. This is not a lib or a con statement, it is meant to be mean, that you can be a "friend", a "brother or a sister", a "confidante" or whatever they need you to be.

Dave you are right, Holiness begins in the heart. Part of being "Holy" is "having" a right attitude and "keeping" a right spirit. You can't be holy and be "ugly" at the same time.

We all need balance. I need those who don't see things as "conservative" as I do and I need those folks who see thing more "liberal" than I do. I'd like to see the day come when we can forget the labels and just be Christians and do what Jesus told us to do......go win the world!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 220006)

LS, you have an excellent spirit! :)

As someone else mentioned in this thread, this couple's spirit had effected their core beliefs long before it was manifested. I'm like Felicity in that I can't stand folks who enjoy flaunting their freedom in front of conservative folks! :nah

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner (Post 220297)

I need those who don't see things as "conservative" as I do and I need those folks who see thing more "liberal" than I do.

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 220377)

I'd say you're Christian to the core.A disciple of The Lamb you are.

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner (Post 219907)

I believe we'll all be surprised at who stands beside us in heaven.

Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 220453)

Wow, you really surprised me with this statement. This is the 3rd time tonight that I read something from you that I would not have expected...(the 2nd one being a statement you made in the post that Felicity and I quoted above...and the first one was when you enjoyed very much the song from that trinitarian video Dan posted of Hillsong United) Does your honeybunny Coonskinner think this way too?


:highfive

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 218789)

LOL! Thanks for the explanation! God bless! My husband tells me I'm getting oldtimers! lol

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 218381)

This couple just moved in the gift of ignorance!! Never, never, never should you disrespect the men or organization that you serve under. I learned that best in the book "The Tale of Three Kings" which I have read several times. Even when you don't agree, if you are a part of the system, you should try to submit. If you feel that you cannot submit to something that you believe is error, then you should get out. But don't cause confusion in the body; you will be held accountable as a rebellious one.