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Caston Smith 10-24-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 279999)
My ALJC pastor used to say, "I baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and for the reception of the Holy Ghost" and then just before plunging them backward into the water he would add "in Jesus' name."

I don't see anything wrong with that. When I baptize I say

"Person's full name ________________ Upon the profession of your faith, and obedience to the Word of God I now baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins (and if they don't have the Holy Ghost I conclude by saying) that you may receive the Holy Ghost"

I was preaching at a Church one time and the Pastor asked me to baptize a couple of new converts, and I said the above, and he had me to rebaptize them without saying "that you may receive the Holy Ghost."

Praxeas 10-24-2007 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 280004)
I don't see anything wrong with that. When I baptize I say

"Person's full name ________________ Upon the profession of your faith, and obedience to the Word of God I now baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins (and if they don't have the Holy Ghost I conclude by saying) that you may receive the Holy Ghost"

I was preaching at a Church one time and the Pastor asked me to baptize a couple of new converts, and I said the above, and he had me to rebaptize them without saying "that you may receive the Holy Ghost."

Brother Smith, I have to ask: Are you associated with Pastor Reckart?

Joseph Miller 10-24-2007 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 280080)
Brother Smith, I have to ask: Are you associated with Pastor Reckart?


To my knowledge he isn't, he has just communicated with him. That is how his letter got added to the Reckhart letter.

Joseph Miller 10-24-2007 02:36 AM

Praxeas, do you make commericals for Geico? lol

I couldn't resist since you have that pic.

Hoovie 10-24-2007 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 280004)
I don't see anything wrong with that. When I baptize I say

"Person's full name ________________ Upon the profession of your faith, and obedience to the Word of God I now baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins (and if they don't have the Holy Ghost I conclude by saying) that you may receive the Holy Ghost"

I was preaching at a Church one time and the Pastor asked me to baptize a couple of new converts, and I said the above, and he had me to rebaptize them without saying "that you may receive the Holy Ghost."

This is why much of the discussion on this thread is a moot issue. There is a lot of personal preference out there... It almost makes baptism seem like something fabricated for pleasure of man.

Why don't we just preach Jesus and baptise those who recieve His word in His name. The scripture never gives an exact formula regarding baptism.

SDG 10-24-2007 07:30 AM

I shake my head when some read the bible as if it were a book of spells. There is a true failure in having a biblical perspective as to what is means to call upon the name of the Lord .... as it was taught to the saints in the OT and then the NT.

mizpeh 10-24-2007 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 280096)
I shake my head when some read the bible as if it were a book of spells. There is a true failure in having a biblical perspective as to what is means to call upon the name of the Lord .... as it was taught to the saints in the OT and then the NT.

Dan, would you even consider casting out a devil without invoking the name of the Lord? Is the name of the Lord being used as a magical name when the sick are healed as in Acts 3?

Does this sound magical to you? The name of the Lord is a strong tower......

SDG 10-24-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 280103)
Dan, would you even consider casting out a devil without invoking the name of the Lord? Is the name of the Lord being used as a magical name when the sick are healed as in Acts 3?

Does this sound magical to you? The name of the Lord is a strong tower......

I've seen men of God simply lay their hands on a demon possessed person and they are liberated ... why ??? because they did so in the name of the Lord .. with His person through them .... w/ His power and authority. As I have seen Spirit-filled people cast out demons while invoking the name of our Lord.

There are layers to this, Mizpeh. If simple invocation was enough then the sons of Sceva would not have been wrecked by the demon they sought exorcise. If simply casting out demons in His name ... or possessing the power given to us to do so ... is what saves us ... then those that God will not tell some on that day ... depart from me.

Some are hung up ... on the proper verbalization ... and that is troublesome.

Scott Hutchinson 10-24-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 279996)
Brother Hutchinson,

Why not just do it like Peter said in Acts 2:38?

"and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins ..."

That's what I usually say. But of course in Acts they said Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus or the name of the Lord is mentioned so to me if the person is repentant and the name of Jesus Christ is used in the person's baptism I can live with it.

Jack Shephard 10-24-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Caston Smith (Post 280004)
I don't see anything wrong with that. When I baptize I say

"Person's full name ________________ Upon the profession of your faith, and obedience to the Word of God I now baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins (and if they don't have the Holy Ghost I conclude by saying) that you may receive the Holy Ghost"

I was preaching at a Church one time and the Pastor asked me to baptize a couple of new converts, and I said the above, and he had me to rebaptize them without saying "that you may receive the Holy Ghost."

This could be because if they were new converts they may have already received the HG. So it was a contradiction to then ask for them to be filled unless perhaps you could use "baptize you in the name of Jesus.....that you may be continually filled with his spirit." Something like that.

The church I attend the Pastor asked if they have accepted Jesus into there life and has He made a change in them. Then he baptizes them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and he says, "and may you walk in the power of His spirit(Holy Spirit,Holy Ghost) all the days of your life." I like that!


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