Originally Posted by staysharp (Post 422977)

Rhone, you are 100% correct. A few things I might add. Outward standards do two things. Create spiritual pride and a false sense of identity.

When a child is made to defend needlessly their dress in school and refute harsh criticism, as a coping mechanism, they are told by those who are in authority over them, "we do this because we are God's children and special to God. You don't wear pants, because Jesus doesn't love girls who wear pants. The other kids aren't saved and aren't going to heaven. You, however are chosen by God to represent him. This make you special."

So, as this child grows, it's implanted into their psyche that their unusual dress is a form of worship and attaches to their identity. Once this occurs, Satan now has access to divert their faith away from Christ towards self. The oldest trick in the book. If he can accomplish that, he destroys their salvation without them even knowing it.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard "it's our identity". Sadly, their absolutely right. A false identity which they themselves find security in. However, they do not understand that no one on the planet is interested in Christ through their clothes.

Jesus tells us what our identity is; by this shall all men know you are my disciples. That you would love on another as I have loved you.

Originally Posted by staysharp (Post 422977)

Rhone, you are 100% correct. A few things I might add. Outward standards do two things. Create spiritual pride and a false sense of identity.

When a child is made to defend needlessly their dress in school and refute harsh criticism, as a coping mechanism, they are told by those who are in authority over them, "we do this because we are God's children and special to God. You don't wear pants, because Jesus doesn't love girls who wear pants. The other kids aren't saved and aren't going to heaven. You, however are chosen by God to represent him. This make you special."So, as this child grows, it's implanted into their psyche that their unusual dress is a form of worship and attaches to their identity. Once this occurs, Satan now has access to divert their faith away from Christ towards self. The oldest trick in the book. If he can accomplish that, he destroys their salvation without them even knowing it.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard "it's our identity". Sadly, their absolutely right. A false identity which they themselves find security in. However, they do not understand that no one on the planet is interested in Christ through their clothes.

Jesus tells us what our identity is; by this shall all men know you are my disciples. That you would love on another as I have loved you.

Originally Posted by staysharp (Post 422977)

Rhone, you are 100% correct. A few things I might add. Outward standards do two things. Create spiritual pride and a false sense of identity.

When a child is made to defend needlessly their dress in school and refute harsh criticism, as a coping mechanism, they are told by those who are in authority over them, "we do this because we are God's children and special to God. You don't wear pants, because Jesus doesn't love girls who wear pants. The other kids aren't saved and aren't going to heaven. You, however are chosen by God to represent him. This make you special."

So, as this child grows, it's implanted into their psyche that their unusual dress is a form of worship and attaches to their identity. Once this occurs, Satan now has access to divert their faith away from Christ towards self. The oldest trick in the book. If he can accomplish that, he destroys their salvation without them even knowing it.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard "it's our identity". Sadly, their absolutely right. A false identity which they themselves find security in. However, they do not understand that no one on the planet is interested in Christ through their clothes.

Jesus tells us what our identity is; by this shall all men know you are my disciples. That you would love on another as I have loved you.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 423148)

THIS is the attitude that is so sickening. And yes, I have heard similar words said to others. As a guy I wasn't on the tail end of most of this sort of talk -all "we" had to do was NOT go to theaters/watch TV/dance in school/swim/listen to "rock"/spend anytime with the opposite sex without an adult present. And all we had to do was be in church when the doors were open and attend bible college after we graduated high school.
But..... Adding the list clothing requirements that women had to follow to all the things WE did, was the way your knew you were saved. To NOT do any of the above (or in some cases, DO the above) meant you were backslid.

Did I ever hear anyone say that "Jesus doesn't love little girls who wear pants"? Not in those words but I have heard those exact same ideas expressed by others (and by a very famous holiness authorette.)

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 422985)

Of course not! Every educated woman in the world longs to have someone tell her she is a jezebel and going to hell for puttiing on some concealer and lipstick! They long for someone to tell them putting a ring on their finger or a necklace on is going to send them to hell and displeases God (of course if they have a $5000 rolex they can keep wearing that - they just have to get rid of the twenty dollar costume jewelry).

Luckily half of the world's population is men and they can still look like they belong on the cover of GQ magazine when they get in church. For that reason I reccomend concentrating on witnessing to men.:bliss

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate (Post 423131)

WHAT??? I have been in this all of my life and NEVER have I heard anyone tell their child that Jesus doesn't love little girls who wear pants....My mother never told me that, nor imply it!
:kickcan and the outward standards do not create spiritual pride.... I have been around long enough to realize that it is the person behind the clothes the have the pride.... AND I have seen those without standards have spiritual pride as well.... I am sick of people painting everyone with the same brush.... You just can't do that..... There has to be a level of maturity somewhere. I don't assume that all thoes who don't adhere to standards have a problem with rebellion.... I don't just blast them because I think they have no respect of authority for the ministry so they knock standards and the men who preach them. I can't do that! It is wrong....So to say that THE above attitude is consistant is those who hold to standards, well, that is just incorrect...:kickcan

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 423241)

I don't know, my granddaughter told me that Jesus doesn't like girls that wear jewelry. I asked her who told her that? She said, "Mommmy & Daddy". I said, "Do you believe Jesus loves Nana?", She said, "Yes." I said, "Does Nana wear jewelry? " She said , "Yes." I said, "Wouldn't it be safe to say that Jesus loves Nana even though she wears jewelry?" She said, "Yes."

It is sad to teach young children that God dislikes anyone regardles of whether or not they wear jewelry, wear make-up, or cut their hair. Let's teach the chidlren; it is wrong to lie, wrong to gossip, and wrong to judge others.

Blessings, Rhoni