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Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 459487)

There was a time in the ministry of Jesus when it is said that "the power of the Lord was present to heal" (Luke 5:19). There is another time when it said that Jesus "could do no mighty works there" (Mark 6:5). God moves in different ways in different times. The attitude and expectancy of those present is a large factor. That is why Jesus cleared the room of those with negative attitudes in Mark 5:38-42.

Todd Bentley has had a life changing experience with Jesus. Some of us would call it a salvation experience and some of us would not. Todd Bentley has spent hours and hours in prayer in preparation for ministry. Todd Bentley does not look like a cookie cutter Christian and does not agree with all of our theological points of doctrine (but we don't even agree with one another on some stuff). He is evidently gifted and anointed by the Holy Spirit whether he is licensed by one of our "recognized" organizations or not. After fasting and praying, people converge expecting something to happen. That faith seems to increase as more and more people believe together. Then, something happens and it seems to fuel the faith of those who are there, and something else happens, and on and on.

We need to remember that God does not always work within our preconceived religious borders. John 7:40-44 tells of different attitudes people had back then about Jesus and His ministry. Some missed out because He did not fit their theological mold. Read John 7:47-49 where the leadership asked contempuously, "Is their a single one of us Jewish rulers who believe he is the Messiah?" And then they spoke of the "ignorance" of those who believed in Him because those poor deluded folks didn't know (their personal interpretation) of the doctrine or of the Scriptures.

Wonderful post!!!! Amen and Amen!!!

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by Jeanie (Post 459733)

She is a gorgeous girl De, actually when ever I see pictures of the 2 of you it always looks like two sisters instead of mom and daughter.

Yeah, I was wondering the same. Which is Mom, which is daughter? Like that old TV commercial (back in those days when I sat in front of that old one eyed monster). Well, gotta run...the Andy Griffith Show is on my "monitor" and I can't miss Andy.

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 459758)

Yeah, I was wondering the same. Which is Mom, which is daughter? Like that old TV commercial (back in those days when I sat in front of that old one eyed monster). Well, gotta run...the Andy Griffith Show is on my "monitor" and I can't miss Andy.

That's funny-:lol

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 459453)

OK, I'll get ready to dodge the rocks, bricks, tomatoes, etc. that may be flung my way
but,
in my opinion,
God is more interested in our heart than He is in our head.

Wanted to hit this real quick.

I am sure you have read the verse in Psalms that states, "Thy WORD have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee".

If you believe true doctrine represents head knowledge, you are sadly mistaken. Doctrine is an issue of the heart. your post actually seems to say, "don't worry about what you believe, just believe". No wonder there is such a departing from sound doctrine.

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 460228)

I know the post was not directed at me but here is what I think....There is not a departing from sound doctrine. Though to some Cons it seems so. There is now a seperation unto true the doctrine of God. The doctrine of men has made people have bad attitudes about things like this revival in FL. True worshipers do so in spirit and in truth. They are and yet catching ........ for it. Now I am sure there are people on here that will say they are not in truth. That is because you all see truth as a little box of beliefs, but truth is Jesus...period. He is the truth and they worship Him alone and worship Him in spirit, but somehow they are down graded and talked down about by people in this movement cause they do not look the part. Even if this person was a oneness person to the core but he don't look the part he is cast out...not fair.

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 458767)

yeah, but those people can't be receiving the REAL Holy Ghost,
and can't be speaking in REAL tongues,
and can't be receiving REAL healings and miracles,
and can't be praising and worshiping the REAL God,
because,
Todd Bentley has body piercings and tattoos and he does not hold papers with the UPC.

It's all either satanic power or faked.

this is the main reason I am not interested...

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

Luke 11:11-13

11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

I am convinced that if someone is asking God for his Spirit they are not going to get a counterfeit.

And if they get what they ask for...

Romans 8:10 -11
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

Info on Todd Bentleys "New Age" beliefs. And to think Apostolics are falling for this as being a revival of God.

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The occult teaching in Florida is becoming more and more bold. It's not masqueraded, or fluffed with imagery and silver lining, but blatantly displayed for all to see. The fact that this is not even trying to be concealed demonstrates huge confidence.

The ignorance for the scripture is appalling, and from this point on anything can be said. What is next?

On may 13th Todd sat down with Bob Jones on the podium and they had a dialogue session.

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Todd asks Bob, “Can you tell us how the Wind of Change works?”

Bob says, “I was watching some of you, do you know what you are doing? You are vibrating. You know there are two portals, clockwise vibration and counter clockwise vibration which is demonic. When you begin to vibrate like that you can close demonic vibration. You can cure cancers. So the power has been falling on your hand.”

Todd says, “I'm always vibrating.”

Bob says, “The vibration is healing.”

Bob starts waving his hands back and forth and says, “I'm releasing it to you.”

Todd believes that the source of this revival is an angel named "Wind of Change". Now we learn how this angel works and operates. Through vibration! And not just any vibration, but clockwise vibration! The vibration IS healing!

Where can learn about this vibration healing, portals that operate in opposite direction? Not in the Bible, but it is very common in New Age material.

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by stmatthew (Post 466593)

Info on Todd Bentleys "New Age" beliefs. And to think Apostolics are falling for this as being a revival of God.

Matt, where is the link?

Re: Lakeland Florida Revival?????

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 466608)

Matt, where is the link?

Sorry, my quote was a quote from another forum that is speaking about this issue.

The conversation between Todd Bentley and Bob Jones was said to have been on a video that the poster transcribed.

Here is a video that gives a glimpse of what is occurring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuqwjUyb9io