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Socialite 02-04-2011 12:35 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 1024838)
You may be better off! :heeheehee
Of course you should have been here when we solved everyone's problems.... gave them a bushel of truth and opinion! And boy our opinion is the best, isn't it Socialite?

Been Thinkin

Been Thinkin
Oh yeah. :rolleyes2

Truthseeker 02-04-2011 05:52 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 1024800)
Someone comes to visit you and you say you're so glad to see them, when you just got through saying, "Oh no! I didn't want any company!"


Been Thinkin
If your not glad to seem them then yes it's lying.

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 07:46 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1024362)
Straw men. No one so far as propagated Eternal Security.

I've heralded Just-About-Eternal Security
yep... :thumbsup

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 07:54 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1024228)
If it were a continuum --- and ES is a 1, on the left, and SITHAG is a 10 on the right. I'd say... a 2!
1.1

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 07:55 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1024248)
:thumbsup

I'd rather be a native in the deep dark jungles that has never heard of Jesus than a child of God that is separated from Him by sin.
Tis true!

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 08:00 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1024251)
Do you have sin? Do you sin? Today? Last night?

When God looks at us, does he see our sin, or Christ's blood?
If you are sinning he sees the sin. Walking in faith is righteousness by the Spirit. In him there is no sin.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.


1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Joh 15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Joh 15:11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.
Joh 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 08:05 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1024456)
He sees His children through the blood of his Son, Jesus Christ. But we cannot live in sin and walk with a Holy God. Sin is an anathema to him.
Correct. This mentality of a blood covering. blood bubble we live in and when we sin God does not see it or he sees it but it doesn't change our standing before him is about as heretical as it gets. God will still draw you and convict you but that doesn't mean you are "just" before him. It is his mercy that he does so.

Socialite 02-04-2011 10:23 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 1024878)
If you are sinning he sees the sin. Walking in faith is righteousness by the Spirit. In him there is no sin.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.


1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Joh 15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Joh 15:11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.
Joh 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.
Eventually, you will have to reconcile your pet scripture with the whole counsel of scripture. Scripture is explicit that we are "in Christ" so His record is seen, not ours.... and this is more than once.

I've dealt with your citation from John before. But eventually you'll have to get unstuck and reconcile that with the whole of scripture.

LUKE2447 02-04-2011 10:26 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1024968)
Eventually, you will have to reconcile your pet scripture with the whole counsel of scripture. Scripture is explicit that we are "in Christ" so His record is seen, not ours.... and this is more than once.

I've dealt with your citation from John before. But eventually you'll have to get unstuck and reconcile that with the whole of scripture.
your "dealing" ignored everything scripture says and you missed the whole context.

Timmy 02-04-2011 10:28 AM
Re: How easy is it to Lose Salvation?
 
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1024236)
I believe only God knows our hearts and the condition of our souls. But I know sin separates us from God.
If so, then nobody knows if they are saved. Matthew 7:21-23.


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