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deacon blues 12-10-2008 05:01 PM

The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
And it won't now.

The Stock Market crashed in 1929. FDR was elected in 1932 and introduced the New Deal. Many believe that the New Deal ended the Great Depression. Consider that the Great Depression didn't end until our introduction into World War II that didn't happen in earnest until 1942. If all of those government programs and Democratic economic policies were the answer to the Depression, why did it take 10 years to get us out of it? Could we say that the New Deal PROLONGED the Great Depression versus ended it?

Unemployment in 1932 was 23.6%. Unemployment had only dropped to 17.1% by the end of the decade. The Dow didn't reach 1929 levels until 1954. The fact remains that the most aggressive presidency in our history with all of its central planning and government intervention into the market with its work programs and raising the top tax rate from 25% to 63%, didn't end the Depression. World War did.

Unfortunately, because FDR remained president during WWII (in which he did a wonderful job as commander in chief), he gets credit also for ending the GD because of all of his economic policies. The truth, when examined, says something else.

Government bailouts aren't going to work. Obama's infrastructure programs won't work. You have to allow failure in a capitalistic economy. Capitialism without failure is like Christianity without sin.

Baron1710 12-10-2008 06:29 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
I wish I could locate a qoute I read once it was something like this, While historians may credit FDR with bringing us out of the Great Depression, Economists know better.

Innocuous 12-10-2008 06:41 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
Did Bush get it backwards? He did the war thing first. Perhaps he should start another war before he leaves office. Pakistan? Iran? Venezuela? Zimbabwe?

Cindy 12-10-2008 06:55 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by Innocuous (Post 653692)
Did Bush get it backwards? He did the war thing first. Perhaps he should start another war before he leaves office. Pakistan? Iran? Venezuela? Zimbabwe?

:yo

A_PoMo 12-10-2008 06:56 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by Innocuous (Post 653692)
Did Bush get it backwards? He did the war thing first. Perhaps he should start another war before he leaves office. Pakistan? Iran? Venezuela? Zimbabwe?

I couldn't have said it better myself! :santathumb

Jermyn Davidson 12-10-2008 07:18 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 653715)
I couldn't have said it better myself! :santathumb

Well at least Pakistan, Iran and Zimbabwe would not be wars without proper cause.

Innocuous 12-10-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 653729)
Well at least Pakistan, Iran and Zimbabwe would not be wars without proper cause.

Well, Zimbabwe for sure. And maybe Sudan.

Jermyn Davidson 12-10-2008 07:29 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by Innocuous (Post 653739)
Well, Zimbabwe for sure. And maybe Sudan.

Pakistan and Iran are MUCH MORE WORTHY to bear the brunt of America' righteous indignation through military might than Iraq ever was.

Sudan, there's not a western power willing to do anything substantial there-- just way too many players involved and not enough in it for any one country to commit military assets.

Innocuous 12-10-2008 07:42 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 653743)
Pakistan and Iran are MUCH MORE WORTHY to bear the brunt of America' righteous indignation through military might than Iraq ever was.

Sudan, there's not a western power willing to do anything substantial there-- just way too many players involved and not enough in it for any one country to commit military assets.

I'm not much of a hawk so I'll pass on the first comment.

But what does the above bolded statement reference?

Jermyn Davidson 12-10-2008 07:48 PM

Re: The New Deal Didn't End the Great Depression
 
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Originally Posted by Innocuous (Post 653759)
I'm not much of a hawk so I'll pass on the first comment.

But what does the above bolded statement reference?


Not enough profit for any one country to get involved, not enough of a threat for everyone to get involved, not enough honest, armed and healthy Sudanese to even try to align one's elite forces with to bring about change from the inside out.

This is solely my opinion on the Sudan situation.


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