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revrandy 05-25-2007 01:24 PM

Selling Out to Cash In.... Ex-Apostolics...
 
It disturbs me when I see ex-apostolics on Televsion hawking money for the propagation of False Doctrine....

When I see ex-apostolic singers who turn their back on truth and claim anointing and propagate false doctrine...

Seems like they "sold out" to Cash in...

Claiming that their new found wealth & popularity is a sign of God's Blessings....

What think Ye??

Sister Alvear 05-25-2007 01:31 PM

I weep when this happens......30 pieces of silver...30 shekels of shame..

Jack Shephard 05-25-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 127526)
It disturbs me when I see ex-apostolics on Televsion hawking money for the propagation of False Doctrine....

When I see ex-apostolic singers who turn their back on truth and claim anointing and propagate false doctrine...

Seems like they "sold out" to Cash in...

Claiming that their new found wealth & popularity is a sign of God's Blessings....

What think Ye??

I do not think that the money part of the prosperity doctrine is what all are leading too. Althought with larger churches come larger tithe checks. I think that to say "cashing in" is a little of a stretch. Some have cashed in referring to money. Some have cashed in with a more effective ministries, better programs, etc. Some have gone crazy and left God altogether. Some have stepped out from under the crazy-con-ideology that some of the UPC has and been able to reach better, further and been more affective.

But keep in mind that the bible says, Deuteronomy 8:18
But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

Remember that wealth is not always money, but sometimes it is.

rkentsmith 05-25-2007 01:36 PM

Methinks this thread will offend some here.....

Jack Shephard 05-25-2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 127535)
I weep when this happens......30 pieces of silver...30 shekels of shame..

I think that is silly to discount everyone that left and just happen to gain wealth as selling out. There are alot of people that are still in the UPC that point their finger and say the ones that left have "soldout." But those are opinions. Opinions are not truths.

Sister Alvear 05-25-2007 01:40 PM

little is said of the cross, denying yourself, being beat with rods, being shipwrecked, naked, hungry...ever weary...

berkeley 05-25-2007 01:45 PM

the truth is, he started this thread after I sent him a PM explaining my next [ad]venture. I was offered a 1hour/weekly spot on a christian network to teach or whatever... and the pay is $$$$$$ great!!!! Bye Bye poverty!! Money cometh!!! cha ching!!! $$$$$

Sister Alvear 05-25-2007 01:47 PM

I am not in the UPCI and neither am I saying people who leave the UPCI are selling out...
I personally am saying a lot of glamour and promises some of these prosperity preachers make is to raise more money...and more money and more money...

I am sure there are sincere people also preaching.

rkentsmith 05-25-2007 01:53 PM

Nashville and TBN want all the contributers to sacrifice for the sake of prosperity....

Not much cross bearing mentioned by the media type minitries.....

That is ....

They want you to carry their cross......

Jack Shephard 05-25-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 127564)
I am not in the UPCI and neither am I saying people who leave the UPCI are selling out...
I personally am saying a lot of glamour and promises some of these prosperity preachers make is to raise more money...and more money and more money...

I am sure there are sincere people also preaching.

Sister, I did not mean to make it seem as if I were accusing you of doing this. I was using your quote to build off of. But my point was that there are alot of people out there that left the UCPI and others that have not become millionaires. Some are the same people now that they were when they left. BUT the fact is that some of the churches have grown in number. Thus meaning more tithe, higher salaies, etc.

Most of them I have seen on TBN and such are trying to raise money for the station not for their bill fold or money clip. There are some. But also remember God does bless people to become wealthy and some of these people try and help others to reach that kind of freedom. I am not happy with it as a doctrine, but a blessing, yes it is. I think that there is some of them that are greedy and want money, money, money. But I would not say that it is a majority.


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